why do i need to update the app so i can see changes. Whats the point of a change log then? I have auto updates off cause it a hassle to revert back to an earlier version if I dont like the changes. I know for a fact the ig update is for their new stupid map feature and AI shit. I will not update unless it stops working completely. Is it so hard to say what specific bug was fixed and what exactly do you mean by performance.
why cant it be detailed like this
I can understand a banking app such as a home wanting to obfuscate whatever bugs or potential exploits they’ve come across and patched - to prevent users on older versions from being targeted; but the rest of those examples are utterly bullshit.
I put forward Duolingo as another egregious example of this bullshit:
People still use duolingo?
Silence, Owl. Anki supremacy till the end.
That Chime one is the sloppest AI slop I’ve seen today.
“General system stability improvements to enhance the user’s experience.”
My advice is to separate from the shady companies that don’t even tell you what they are adding into the app
Facebook is one of the worst:
The app must be so fast that it has transcended to a higher plane of existence if it gets faster every update.
You expect them to admit:
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Implemented more aggressive collection of personal data to sell to advertisers.
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Advertisers of medical and beauty supplements are now suggested to your teenage daughter if she deleted her picture minutes after not receieving likes.
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Users who advocate for neonazi and genocidal idologies now get suggested to each other to better promote and organize which returns higher profit of targetted advertisements as their usage time and activities increase together.
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As part of our new monitoring and speech policy, users are now allowed to use the word retard, removed, f-word, tranny, and n-word with hard R without their posts getting flagged or reviewed which allows for better targetted advertisements and higher revenue for the Zuck.
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Data collection now includes geophraphical tracking of your friends and intrests of people you follow giving higher revenue for shareholders.
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Implemented analysis of background data collection of users usage and screen time, which gives higher profits per click to our targetted adveretisers.
does lemmy.world not allow bitch? lol thats funny
or is it something else like cunt
Censorship of words is the dumbest thing to me. People simply change the word. Keep playing R-worded whack-a-mole lmao.
lmao…! Yes Lemmy censored my comment but I hope I dont get banned for it. I was mocking facebook content policy changes which the Zuck implemented to lick Trump’s removed which was part of his $25Million settlement to avoid repercussions for banning his account back when Biden was in Office.
i cant wait for both their downfalls !!
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My bank’s app recently went like “We’ve implemented a feature if you use our widget, and also one hidden feature.” Like fucking just tell me what the fuck that’s about? I’m not looking for easter eggs in my fucking bank app.
“Bugfixes and performance improvements”
I see that one all the time from big companies because it sounds nice and tells you nothing.
One of those updates a few years included embedding adware. So, thanks for that… jackhole
The obvious answer is there’s no human at the helm recording changes, it’s just the next build. You’ll take it and you’ll like it.
Or that the person writing the changelog is in marketing and knows that end users will be seeing this as communication directly from the company. Marketing people tend to foam at the mouth when they see a chance to “connect with their users”.
Right, like I said, no human at the helm
Your hypothesis is confirmed by “Because nothing says Fall like financial progress.”
Patch notes:
- A bunch of stuff you won’t like it need
OMG, thank you! Until now I thought I was the only person to be fucking annoyed by this shit.
We are here. Dozens of us!
A developer here, I usually list user - facing changes in the Changelog.
Even if the changes are not listed, general “bug fixes and performance improvements” is a worthwhile update too. These updates can contain fixes to annoying UX glitches, or really speed up the app, if a new faster API endpoint was added to the backend, and app change is needed to make use of it. You will also get security updates, to the app and its bundled libraries which is important nowadays.
but why not list those specific changes instead of just saying “bug fixes and performance improvements”? If the changelog is character limited on app stores cant you put a link to a dev blog or something? I want to know what is being changed on apps that have access to data on my phone. I have permissions off on every single app because of this, you literally never know what they are doing. All im asking for is transparency. Tumblr has a dedicated blog where they talk about updates but spotify just doesnt even give a shit.
Im a dev too i dont understand the modern app development landscape, how hard is it to just tell users what they’re getting??
Even Google does the same with almost every app like Maps, Files, Chrome.
Who the hell uses Google Files for anything but a bad file picker?
That’s an example I gave. I use Solid Explorer.
Solid choice.
Google does a lot of A/B testing, so listing new changes may be pointless as the new features may be available only to select few.
Also developers have no incentive to document changes. It’s a hassle to compile a list of changes since last release, and people don’t read the Changelog for every release, especially with auto updates on.
I’d be great if they could at least use an LLM to compile the Changelog
You dont need an llm, and it doesn’t need to be a developer. Devs are more than capable of writing down words that a human can understand, and if the project is big there will be a manager who has the context to provide a short summary.
However all of that requires company effort.
Developers very seldom communicate in a way that pleases their company leadership. There’s a reason support, sales and marketing people have jobs. If companies didn’t need them, they would cut them to save cost.
However, the developer should be able to put down their changes and whomever is in charge of communications should be using the change log as a chance to communicate to end users the changes in a friendly way. Not this nonsense. LLM could do it but it, but it’s best to have it written by a person.
This seems like roughly what I said except discounting the idea that a changelog, marketing communication, sales communication, and support are all wildly different. I don’t want some dumbass in sales or marketing who can barely add two numbers together without a calculator trying to explain that Firefox fixed several crashes in the latest release. Similarly I wouldn’t want a developer trying to psychologically manipulate you into buying something you don’t need – that’s why you hire sociopaths.
Wow, tell me how you really feel about sales people. Jeez.
I think it’s a universal experience if you’re an engineer who does customer facing work. Every salesperson I’ve worked with has been either extraordinarily stupid or a sociopath who overpromises something that doesn’t exist so they can get a commission, regardless of the fact that the thing they sold doesn’t work and sometimes cannot work. They are a scourge upon this planet and if they all disappeared overnight the world would almost certainly be a better place.
Marketing otoh I just don’t have a lot of respect for. Sure, they lie and use made-up phrases and barely know the product they are marketing in a lot of cases, but they’re company-approved lies so you’re usually not on the hook for making their lies a reality. The salespeople have to bend those lies into a bullshit “solution” first before it personally impacts you. Plus marketing folks don’t have commission, so they aren’t as personally invested in feeding some made up shit to any given random asshole group lead or director, which is refreshing.
- more ads
- more pointless notifications
- taken out that one thing you actually liked and put it behind a paywall
The meal planning app that I use got bought out by Samsung and they did this. Put a load of ads in and then advertised a “+” version that got rid of ads. The ads were just advertising the “+” feature. 12 months later they said they were going to remove the ads for everyone.
“We are hard at work making discord work better for you”
While content being completely locked away inside proprietary app.
I dont know, I feel like all these fake messages are quite dystopian. What happened to actually treating users as intelligent? I guess maybe today most users dont know anything about tech so thats why this is happening.
