I believe lemmy.world and other instances should start defederating lemmy.ml and other “tankie” instances.
Many users have blocked these instances for extreme political content already.
Please suggest any changes.
EDIT: ok ok ok, I understand this is a stupid idea, how about a default ban list banning lemmy.ml
If .zip is your home instance, why do you care about with whom .world federates?
Good point
Because .zip may not have a community such as this and they searched fediverse and told was the result.
Lemmy.ml federates with hexbear and grad. As a world user I don’t see hexbear and grad because world blocks them thankfully. Unless you are on server X what server X blocks in no way impacts what you see. So they need to petition their local admin.
That said. I think the only reason world still federates with lemmy.ml. is that so many open source projects communities are still there. They need to get moved off to proper instances like KDE or Mozilla have done. Or we need to start a dedicated instance for it.
I mean … why? That’s a lot of work and carving up the network … for what?
How about moving communities off of lemmy world onto proper decentralised instances? Cuz it’s a real problem that world people are happy to defederate and cut plenty of users off from their communities. That maybe they don’t appreciate the value of decentralisation and slowly pushing a federated system into merely a monolithic Reddit alternative. That maybe they’re too happy to shape the network into a reflection of their mainstream politics however much it unconvinced others across the network (which is perhaps a very spec thing to do?)
Which, BTW, lemmy ml has never done … they federate widely, have never called for defederstion from lemmy world (interesting that world would defederate first!) and never wanted to be the biggest instance despite they easily could have been.
Seems like maybe some basic moderation at the community level is all you’d need. Maybe some better tools could help … in which case spell out what that’d look like.
Moving whole communities because you don’t like some people … is a lot … and quite rich for someone on world. Maybe those communities are happy where they are (as I’m sure those on world are) and building and organising a better more flexible network is the answer rather than all of us trying to push it into the shape we want.
Indeed
100 percent this.
Not sure I’m following you, should they not then advocate for Lemmy.zip to defederate? That would be more effective for them
I missed at the start of their post saying it was specifically about .world. Because of that my entire post is meaningless.
No worries!
Just piggybacking onto this thread to point out to the youngins who say “no worries” when I thank them for making my coffee or whatever:
This thread demonstrates the way my generation uses the phrase. It’s less like:
“Thank you”
“No worries”
and more like
“I’m sorry!”
“No worries”
Language evolves I guess
because people by nature want to amplify their opinion