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  • StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Look I fell into the doctor who crowd years ago and it has been… A ride. I always figured I’d get into trek when Ive got nothing left to lose

    • Luke@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      A few of my very favorite episodes of Star Trek ever are in season 1, though. I wouldn’t skip it entirely!

      • s01e11 Haven, because I love Lwaxana when she’s being mischievous
      • s01e13 Datalore, for Spiner in his early glory
      • s01e18 Home Soil, for a decent “murder mystery”
      • s01e22 Symbiosis, seriously one of the best episodes of the whole show with a lesson on why the Prime Directive is important, plenty of Crusher vs Picard moral discussions, and an attempt at a sympathetic view on drug addiction (though a dated one now)
    • Damage@feddit.it
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      2 months ago

      Nah, start from the beginning. When I introduced my partner to star trek, she loved the first TNG seasons, despite recognizing that the latter are better

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        2 months ago

        The first episode also introduces every character.

        It would be a miss for new watchers to skip it, even if some of you don’t like the episode.

        The dish separation was what made me understand there was a lot more to Star Trek then I first thought and made me continue watching, even if it didn’t happen again.

    • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      Even though I think DS9 is objectively better than TNG, I would still recommend TNG to get into it, as the more exploration focus should appeal to a wider audience.

    • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      Picard is easily the worst serious ever. And I don’t mean it in the sense of “place to start” but in the sense of “worst serious period”. Discovery is great tho.

      • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        As a non-Trekkie, I found it enjoyable enough… ditto with Discovery (at least the first season).

        I just picked those two because they were literally my introduction to Star Trek TV series, and I know both are quite divisive in the community…

        • lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          2 months ago

          Funny, I liked the later seasons of Discovery much more when it grew its beard grew its dreadlocks.

          Picard has it’s moments but a ton of fan service that wouldn’t work for non-Trekkie’s I would assume but maybe that’s why you didn’t care about it and wasn’t bothered. It’s “let’s take the heroes of these series and let them fight against these villains from these series and the storyline from there”. Maybe it works even better if you’re new to all of them.

          I wouldn’t even say it’s bad but all the other series are better, so have fun discovering the other series 😉

      • rozodru@piefed.social
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        2 months ago

        it’s an odd series for sure. I did enjoy the last season purely for the Enterprise-D returning. But still it’s weird how they kinda just tossed Wes aside as if he didn’t exist because THIS Crusher son was “WAY more important”. It’s like hey Beverly, you have another kid. one who at this point is WAY more powerful than your hybrid Borg thingy Son.

  • irish_link@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    This is incorrect.

    If you are new at this point “Lower decks” is the right place to start.

    After that you can go to any series, even if TNG is the right next step. You can pick anything.

    • evidences@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I think either Strange New Worlds or Lower Decks is a good starting point for someone new to Trek. I think I’d recommend SNW over Lower Decks though just because the number of references in Lower Decks to other Star Trek media is pretty high.

      • whats_all_this_then@programming.dev
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        2 months ago

        The number of references and in jokes was what made me give SNW and eventually TNG a chance personally. I jist really wanted to know wtf was up with the Koala

    • Albbi@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      Lower decks has soooo many references to the other series I feel like it would be a very confusing place to start.

      • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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        2 months ago

        The references would be lost, but it is still very enjoyable new content for new watchers.

        They can come back to Lower Decks after watching everything else to get the references.

  • glorkon@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The Star Trek universe is based on the premise that a peaceful, united mankind is acting as a benevolent, civilized partner and friend of all alien species.

    But let’s be honest, we all know we would behave like the aliens from Independence Day - mercilessly conquering and harvesting alien worlds and spreading destruction across the universe.

    • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 months ago

      But let’s be honest, we all know we would behave like the aliens from Independence Day - mercilessly conquering and harvesting alien worlds and spreading destruction across the universe.

      This would be true, except that Star Trek assumes a truly post-scarcity world where nobody needs to harvest alien worlds. Hell, the capitalists (Ferengi) are depicted as ruthless and conniving (oftentimes outright cartoonish) villains most of the time.

      • Zink@programming.dev
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        2 months ago

        the capitalists (Ferengi) are depicted as ruthless and conniving (oftentimes outright cartoonish) villains

        And once again, reality lets out a “here we go again” sigh and says “fine… hold my beer.”

    • @glorkon @USSBurritoTruck

      Star Trek also assumes a truly post-scarcity society in which capitalism plays, at most, a small part.

      One of the problems we face in assessing human potential is that we pretty much only know of humans since the Neolithic, when authority and wealth became increasingly centralized. In the Star Trek universe, while authority remains hierarchical and highly centralized, economic inequality is somewhat diminished. These are different sets of social premises and the outcomes might vary.

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        2 months ago

        Indeed, outcomes may vary. I remember growing up in West Berlin in the 1980s, surrounded by the GDR - a highly centralized and hierarchical society with diminished economic inequality. We frequently got time off school because the smog was so bad.

        I’m very skeptical if a human society is possible which does not lead to over-exploitation of resources and recklessness towards discovered species on alien planets. I also doubt that the technology required for space travel could be developed in a sustainable manner in the first place.

        I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of a Star Trek type society which was somehow able find a solution for this problem, but I fear it’s highly unlikely. Ultimately, we’re selfish apes. That’s why I find the Star Trek premise unrealistic.

  • MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website
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    2 months ago

    Wow, Devils Due is like the second episode I watched (first was Silicon Avatar) and I remember enjoying the ending where Picard mimics all her tricks before telling her to fuck off.

    In hindsight easily a notgreat episode, but I remember it fondly.

  • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    My recommendation is to start with the second movie and make your way to first contact.

    Then switch to voyager. If you reach the middle of it, there is no stopping you anymore.

    Alternatively, you can switch to deep space 9 after the movies.

  • PlexSheep@infosec.pub
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    2 months ago

    I have never watched a single star trek thing and the only knowledge I have about it comes from you guy’s memes

    • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      I never was into it, always a Star Wars kid. My gf dad had episodes of TAS going one day and I got sucked into it to my surprise, i didnt think I’d appreciate a show that I always saw as old and kinda cheesy. I watched a few more episodes and really liked it. He did me a big favour, told me even if I wasn’t going to watch it all at once, he said watch space seed the episode, then go watch the first two movies. What an epic, you get a great introduction to Star Trek and one of its greatest villains Khan.

      After that I tired TNG but didnt like it, don’t like most Star Trek, I always go back to the original. I did watch discovery with my wife and it was ok, but strange new worlds is my second favourite now.

      • ballgoat@lemmy.zip
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        2 months ago

        It’s rough. When my wife set out to get me into Trek, she explained about TNG (and Voyager for that matter) taking a while to get going. That did help me get through until it got good.

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      2 months ago

      If you insist on watching TNG from the beginning, be warned the first two seasons are a bit rough and there’s that one “Then we went to the black people planet and got blacked at” episode which even the cast of the show hates that episode.

  • pjwestin@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Yeah, but the answer is TNG, Season 3, Episode 2, The Ensigns of Command. That’s about when they hit their stride. If you’re very brave you could start with Season 2, Episode 9, The Measure of a Man, but that season is pretty hit or miss (if I remember right, the season finale was a clip show).

  • UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I guess I stumbled upon Star Trek on TV here and there, but I really started caring after watching the JJ Abram’s trilogy. There is probably no worse point to enter, but I swear it has its moments

    • James R Kirk@startrek.website
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      2 months ago

      Those movies are so forgettable to me, but I do frequently hear that they were a gateway drug for many people so they’re ok with me!