Calling them Russia backed when command and control and materiel is coming from Russian military was rather limp dick way to hedge which is the whole point I was making here.
It was an limited scope invasion but we needed second one to confirm for sure?
Obviously we didn’t have all the fact back then, but US EU and NATO reaction was strategic geological blunder. But let’s be real this Europe problem first… Russia taking over Ukraine is not a risk to US lol
And at the heart of it all is Germany led by Putin lover mutti Merkel
Bad decisions have consequences. Instead of simping and larping regime propaganda maybe we should start learning from mistakes.
For PR purposes? They entirely reorganized the Ukrainian military from the generals to the privates, moving it from a soviet style army to a NATO style army. The entire reason Russia invaded was Ukraine was starting to win against the Russian backed separatists and would only get stronger in the next decade. You’re being ridiculous.
“Ukrainian” rebels did have mid grade anti air system that shot down a Dutch flight
The west couldn’t figure out where they got it from since it would hurt Putin’s feels
Everyone knew and called out where it came from.
I guess that explains all of the support Ukraine got between 2014 and 2022…
Half of media was still covering it as “civil” war during that time lol
And everyone called the rebels “Russian backed”. At least here in Europe the media was pretty unambiguous regarding that.
Calling them Russia backed when command and control and materiel is coming from Russian military was rather limp dick way to hedge which is the whole point I was making here.
It was an limited scope invasion but we needed second one to confirm for sure?
You did a terrible job getting that point across since you said something else entirely.
You mean the westernization, massive train up, and distribution of portable Western weapons? That support?
De minimis and mostly for PR purposes.
IE limp dick… Again!
Obviously we didn’t have all the fact back then, but US EU and NATO reaction was strategic geological blunder. But let’s be real this Europe problem first… Russia taking over Ukraine is not a risk to US lol
And at the heart of it all is Germany led by Putin lover mutti Merkel
Bad decisions have consequences. Instead of simping and larping regime propaganda maybe we should start learning from mistakes.
For PR purposes? They entirely reorganized the Ukrainian military from the generals to the privates, moving it from a soviet style army to a NATO style army. The entire reason Russia invaded was Ukraine was starting to win against the Russian backed separatists and would only get stronger in the next decade. You’re being ridiculous.
Fact speaks for themselves.
You are coping.
This line of thinking is how we keep making mistakes.
Or you are just shilling regime propaganda.
You’ve done nothing with facts. You’ve been dodging facts this whole time in favor of general denial and ad hominem attacks.
Ukraine was not supported in ernest until after Ukraine fought the first wave of Russian invasion and deny them Kyiv.
And germany didn’t come round until a year later after US blew up Nord Stream.
What facts are you talking about?
Limp dick measures? Still can’t deliver artillery shells on time?
WTF does that have to do with OP’s question?