TL;DR: Antec is going to be selling a Steam Deck competitive device, based on the Ayaneo Slide. The device has a slide up screen that reveals a keyboard, which is good because using desktop windows is much easier with a keyboard. However the device’s lowest estimated power draw at low/no load is 15w, meaning it will use comparable power to the deck running at max power. This means the battery life will probably be pretty rough when compared to the Deck. It will also likely have a much higher price point.

  • Mossy Feathers (She/They)@pawb.social
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    6 months ago

    Same. I just can’t imagine using anything other than Linux for this kinda handheld. Like, I’m mainly a Windows user and I can’t imagine trying to use windows on my steam deck. When you want to make a gaming-focueed handheld like this, you want as much performance as you can squeeze out of the hardware. You’re not doing that with windows.

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      I understand what you’re saying, but that doesn’t have to be true. Many of the games are made to be run on windows, windows is still a effecient os, it’s just a lot of bloat, which can be disabled. Also a lot of optimizations in nt has been done for gaming, features which are missing in the linux kernel, but there are RFCs to add nt like synchronization primitives, in the linux kernel.

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        Many of the games are made to be run on windows, windows is still a effecient os, it’s just a lot of bloat, which can be disabled.

        A) as someone else pointed out, “bloat” and “efficient” are exclusive to one another. Now, you can argue that windows is efficient in some areas and bloated in others, but “bloat” and “efficiency” are mutually exclusive when applied generally.

        B) yes, most, if not all of it, can be disabled through registry edits and 3rd party hacks. However, in my experience, the more you try to debloat windows, the more unstable it gets. Then, it will all come back eventually via updates, which means you get to disable it all again. Finally, again in my experience, the more you try to debloat windows, the less stable it gets, and this carries over even when the OS reinstalls/reenables bloat you tried to get rid of. Seriously, my experience is that even after windows updates rebloat everything, the OS remains unstable, and becomes even more unstable after you debloat again. Granted this was with windows 10, but I imagine the same is more or less true for windows 11.

        Also a lot of optimizations in nt has been done for gaming, features which are missing in the linux kernel, but there are RFCs to add nt like synchronization primitives, in the linux kernel.

        C) and yet, iirc, recent Linux vs Windows 11 benchmarks show Windows games running on Linux via Proton/Proton-GE anywhere from slightly slower to slightly faster than Windows, despite requiring translation layers to run; while the Linux-native games typically run faster than their Windows counterparts.

        Windows is just that bloated.

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          Bloat is in the form av pre installed software and services that can be turned of, Windows is not slow or resource hungry.

          You’re the one contradicting yourself when you’re saying that linux requires a Translation layer. And the translations are not always 1:1. Please show me the benchmarks.

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        windows is still a effecient os, it’s just a lot of bloat

        I like that contradiction.

        which can be disabled

        Pretty sure it can’t, especially not “officially” by the device manufacturer and certainly not in a way that keeps those debloat settings in place over the next few large updates.

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          How is it a contradiction, theres bloat software installed on windows, which can be disabled? Ubuntu to me is also bloated but that doesn’t mean that the OS is slow.

          Yes they can be disabled, do you think governmental entities would run windows without being able to disable a lot of the features?

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            Ubuntu is THE distro that fucks it all up regularly. Most other distros have little to no bloatware.

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                The kernel is one of the main issues. Nobody can touch that hot mess other than Microsoft, and they do a crappy job at that. And you’re the one that brought up the bloatware, and said it can be fully disabled (which isn’t true). As for government use, read a bit and see how many governments are moving away from Windows, and many more that already have. Dude, nobody cares if you want to use Windows, have at it, but there’s no need for you to try to push that crap on some of us that have already been there and now know better. Enjoy Cortana, or copilot or whatever they are calling that dumb shit these days.

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                  I’m not a windows user, I would be considered more of a power user, because I use it professionally and at home, both handling servers and software development. Don’t get me wrong I hate windows user interface more then anything. But I’m not in denial, windows kernel is a very good kernel for gaming, it has a lot of features that doesn’t exist yet. Where do you think the kernel devs for linux take their inspiration from, my god they are adding stuff like windows NT thread primitives to the linux kernel.

                  First of all, you’re just making up stuff, you have no idea what the code base of the Microsoft kernel looks like. Second, who do you think develops the linux kernel, a lot of them are Microsoft engineers, most linux kernel devs nowadays are hired by big tech companies, because they all have a stake in linux, it’s one of the main reasons why linux is evolving so rapidly.

                  Third looking from the outside the Microsoft kernel is pretty amazing for what it does, backwards compatible, you can still run windows 98 software on windows 11, it’s fast and efficient, you have yet to prove that it’s slower than linux.

                  Bro no large or medium sized government entities are using anything else, even if they do, it’s for a little while and then they go back. You know why? Microsoft office, exchange, outlook, there is no other good alternative, good lucking telling their employees that they are going to learn libre office and linux. They can’t even handle windows properly.

                  Most if them have already spent years building their infrastructure around windows and Microsoft office suite, and they are not changing anytime soon.