sorry for the typo.

the comments make it incredibly obvious to me ive struck a bit of a nerve here, so I am going to move my comment into the body so maybe there is a little less confusion.

“for the record, i do believe in voting. i dont believe that an individual vote matters, and i dont believe the will of the public is the deciding factor in policymaking. at the very least i believe in federal voting as harm reduction for the time being, but i will not pretend a democrat in office stops innocent lives or our liberties being taken from us.”

alt text: a 4 panel comic where character A says “if you don’t want biden to win, you must support trump” character 2 says “i don’t accept moral responsibility for the corporate owned two party system” the comic ends with character 1 growing angry at this response and calling character 2 a fascist.

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    for the record, i do believe in voting. i dont believe that an individual vote matters, and i dont believe the will of the public is the deciding factor in policymaking. at the very least i believe in federal voting as harm reduction for the time being, but i will not pretend a democrat in office stops innocent lives or our liberties being taken from us.

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      The problem is that there are ~150 million individual voters. So, every one matters. Even more so when you consider how states divvy up districts. In many previous elections, entire states’ outcomes were decided by handfuls of votes.

      If voting didn’t matter, Republicans wouldn’t try so hard to stop people from doing it.

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    You could do the extreme minimum of preventing a fascist government.

    Or you could complain that the extreme minimum doesn’t have those chocolate sprinkles that you like and step aside for fascism.

    Of course people will see that as supporting fascism.

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            So you do want Biden to win.

            Or you’re only voting (or saying you’re voting) for the sake of getting people who dislike fascism off your back.

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              i would rather another viable candidate that i could truly back, but yes i would rather biden win in this fucked up fptp voting scheme. again, whats your problem?

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                again, whats your problem?

                So let me get this straight.

                You acknowledge the opposition is fascism.

                You don’t want fascism to win.

                You are voting for Biden.

                You support a Biden (or Dem ticket) victory of the realistic possible outcomes for this election.

                You post a meme saying that people who equate support of Biden with opposition to fascism are NPCs.

                Do you really not see the disconnect here?

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                  i believe democrats are just as capable of fascism as republicans. do you not see the difference between voting as a mechanical act of harm reduction vs voting as it is meant to be understood? a vote is meant to be an act of freedom. when i can only vote for burger king or mcdonalds, i argue i am not free.

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    I’m not voting for either and I don’t have any moral responsibility for the system…

    (I’m Canadian)

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Just a friendly reminder in the US general election, it’s not about voting for someone you like, it’s about voting against the monster who will drive us straight into one-party autocracy (There’s a Wikipedia article for this), by voting for the other popular guy, even if he sucks and sits idly by while Israel massacres all the Palestinians; the monster will encourage Israel to massacre the Palestinians while also eating all the frogs.

    Yes, it totally sucks that we have to vote tactically, or suffer a horrible degradation of our government that will actively try to kill some of us.

    So for those of us on the short list of folk to be packed onto the cattle trains, we very much encourage you to vote against Republicans whenever you possibly can in this and all foreseeable elections, at least until there aren’t any more elections.