sorry for the typo.

the comments make it incredibly obvious to me ive struck a bit of a nerve here, so I am going to move my comment into the body so maybe there is a little less confusion.

“for the record, i do believe in voting. i dont believe that an individual vote matters, and i dont believe the will of the public is the deciding factor in policymaking. at the very least i believe in federal voting as harm reduction for the time being, but i will not pretend a democrat in office stops innocent lives or our liberties being taken from us.”

alt text: a 4 panel comic where character A says “if you don’t want biden to win, you must support trump” character 2 says “i don’t accept moral responsibility for the corporate owned two party system” the comic ends with character 1 growing angry at this response and calling character 2 a fascist.

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      3 months ago

      So you do want Biden to win.

      Or you’re only voting (or saying you’re voting) for the sake of getting people who dislike fascism off your back.

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        3 months ago

        i would rather another viable candidate that i could truly back, but yes i would rather biden win in this fucked up fptp voting scheme. again, whats your problem?

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          3 months ago

          again, whats your problem?

          So let me get this straight.

          You acknowledge the opposition is fascism.

          You don’t want fascism to win.

          You are voting for Biden.

          You support a Biden (or Dem ticket) victory of the realistic possible outcomes for this election.

          You post a meme saying that people who equate support of Biden with opposition to fascism are NPCs.

          Do you really not see the disconnect here?

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            3 months ago

            i believe democrats are just as capable of fascism as republicans. do you not see the difference between voting as a mechanical act of harm reduction vs voting as it is meant to be understood? a vote is meant to be an act of freedom. when i can only vote for burger king or mcdonalds, i argue i am not free.

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              You didn’t make it too clear initially, but you’re basically saying, “I’m anti fascism and will vote for whatever the least harmful option is. Voting for the least harmful option does not mean you are pro that option”, right?

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                3 months ago

                correct, this is not encouragement not to vote, it is a rejection of moral responsibility for the way the system prevents us from making a choice that stops kids in cages, elimination of trans rights, or the genocide in palestine.

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              3 months ago

              “Being unfree is when people don’t agree with me, limiting my strategic choices as a citizen in an election; and the more people don’t agree with me, the more unfree I am.”

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                  3 months ago

                  The candidates the two parties offer are because people don’t agree with you. Fuck’s sake. In the GOP the only non-fascist candidate in 2016 got, what, 10% of the primary vote? While Bernie garnered very distinctly not a majority of votes in the primaries in 2016 and 2020.

                  Most people in this country are further right than you or me. As long as that’s true, FPTP or not, you WILL be making strategic decisions you don’t like. That’s the price of being a citizen.

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                    3 months ago

                    i suppose i shouldnt be shocked someone who stans a dead empire wouldnt understand that i dont think things being better in 1000 years maybe is an acceptable course of action. nice arguing with you.