I know that it’s popular to dismiss President Biden. I get it. He’s old. This is the first election featuring the 2 oldest candidates, ever. So what? The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election. To boot Biden from the ticket and try to bootstrap another candidate is madness. Booting this incumbent and hoping his VP will succeed is like firing the cook and hoping the dishwasher will give you Michelin-quality food. Stick with the old man, and figure out a way to enact his popular policies while also expanding the Supreme Court, enacting term limits and limiting “Christian” Nationalists.
I was going to vote for biden but trump showed real gumption when he got shot so i switched sides
Pretty hopeful this is a joke? Please?
Because if not, getting a scratch on the side of your ear doesn’t change the fact he’s been not only tried but convicted of sexual assault, election tampering and fraud. Juries and judges got to look at the actual evidence (not the lies he spews on a minute-by-minute basis) and found him guilty.
You think someone with the user name mayo cider is voting for trump lol
yeah but gumption
LOL…
If only he had shown more gumption
I was going to vote for biden but trump showed real gumption when he got shot so i switched sides
[This is what Democrats actually believe America would do]
The fact that Democrats decided that the race was over when he got not-shot shows how unserious they are.
Damn, who let r/conservative in here?
All the people in here complaining they don’t like their choices. Holy fuck, those are the choices. You don’t get to change them in under half a year from the election, lol. We’ve already had the primaries. We have two old candidates. One is old and has been running the country successfully for nearing 4 years. One is a convicted felon with convictions ranging from fraud to sexual assault. Both have age-related health issues, but only one is promising to try and bring about the end of democracy in this country via Project 2025 if elected.
If you want to change your choices next time, support some form of ranked voting in your state next time so that you can vote for the wild progressive candidate, but also rank the one you think is likely to win under that.
support some form of ranked voting in your state next time
Serious question: how do you suggest I do this? The “vote for Biden” people say this a lot, and like, I agree, ranked choice voting would be far preferable to our current electoral system. I’d like this change to happen. So how can we make it happen? What is the plan for after the election to get ranked voting before the next one? So far as I can tell, none of the politicians in my state (or any state, really) have tried to implement ranked choice and there aren’t any ballot initiatives that aim towards it. So what do you see as the way forward here? How do we get ranked choice voting to become a reality before the next time we’re faced with a choice between two absolutely unacceptable presidential candidates?
If this election is so important why are we being forced to vote for a genocidal mummy instead of having a Primary? 🤔
Remember the “write-in uncommitted” thing? Those were primaries. The write-in could have been anyone, we did not need to pick “uncommitted”.
There weren’t any options to pick, that’s why people wrote in uncommitted. Don’t pretend like those were real primaries.
There were a couple, Dean Philips and that one author lady whose name I can’t remember. Is that some “leaderships” fault though, should they have forced say, Bernie to run again, even though he flat-out said he wasn’t planning to?
Couldn’t we have written in Bernie anyway, just to make a point? But instead we picked “nobody”.
This is just how democracy works, it’s a messy system where people get to do what they want. Including run or not run.
The Party made it clear behind the scenes to serious contenders that they should not campaign and should just wait until 2028, Biden was going to be the nominee and the primary was a figleaf. There was never a serious chance of anyone beating Biden.
That’s just Party politics. I get it.
But pressuring Biden to drop out is Party politics too! You’re acting like I’m asking for something obscene or undemocratic, but I’m just asking for a chance to beat Trump. Our genocidal mummy might not even survive to the election (he has COVID again)
I agree, calls for Biden to step aside are legitimate arguments. I just dislike the DNC conspiracy theory lines like there were no primaries, when people absolutely did have the freedom to run against him if they wanted. Nobody forced progressives not to run, every last one of them personally chose not to, of their own volition, based on the existing information they had at the time. They could be asked not to run, but the choice was theirs every time.
A political party operating like a political party is not a “conspiracy.” Political parties are literally groups of people that work together to achieve political goals.
Party members had the freedom to defy their Party but that would be seriously detrimental to their political careers within the Party. People chose to follow the Party’s direction because that’s how political parties are supposed to work. It’s like when Obama called all the also-rans and told them to drop out and endorse Biden in 2020. The choice was theirs back then, too, but it’s not as simple as everyone just spontaneously deciding to run or not run or drop out all on their own with zero input from the Party.
That’s not a conspiracy! That’s just a political party operating like a political party. I don’t know why this is so hard to accept.
And it’s not too late for the Party to fix this fucking mess.
That last line right there is the problem. Tell me, how can the party fix this mess if Biden, for whatever reason, simply refuses to drop out? Is there some mechanism or method by which the party can force him out, short of attempting to enact the 25th amendment and hoping Congress agrees?
You’re minimizing the personal freedom these individuals have to defy their party, giving the party an unrealistic amount of behind-the-scenes power. This is conspiratorial.
Bernie did not cooperate with the party, isn’t even officially a member. Still doing fine though. This party apparatus does not have the actual degree of control people like to think, it can only sway, lobby and pressure. People simply like to blame it at every opportunity, out of convenience mainly.
Russian Bot
Literally dehumanizing your enemies. Nice.
“Everyone who disagrees with me is Russian!”
But please, tell me more about how only foreign adversaries could be dissatisfied with the US. 🙄
What time is it in Moscow?
GOOD POST
Yes, and you say the Democratic Party considers this election the most important of our lifetimes despite the fact that the wavering in the party is obviously top-downThe future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election.
Wow sounds like they really should’ve put forward a better candidate than Biden
lol i love nate bronze, my favorite copium dealer
They fired him a few years ago lol
wait, what? i thought 538 was his project, who fired him lmao
#FreeNate
He very smartly sold 538 to ABC/ESPN/Disney and I don’t know why they fired him but they did.
Average genocide enjoyer
Trump: evil dictatorial genocide
Biden: acceptable, respectable genocide
Obama: What genocide?
The arrogance of Democratic leadership is fully on display here. I have nothing against Biden, he’s done great but he’s too old and should have known he was going to be a one term president from day one and worked to hand the mantle over to younger candidates years ago.
Now here we are months from an extremely important election and we have to debate if he is physically fit for the job. It’s obvious bullshit and a complete failure of leadership for the Democratic Party.
A lot of people are going to just vote for him because the alternative is unacceptable. However there are a lot of people in the center in key swing states who don’t follow politics, don’t understand what is at stake that may not have that same attitude. To them the age issue is front and center in their decision making process.
This is the second time Dems have put a fundamentally flawed candidate up for the presidency. They need to fix their fucking process.
Only one way to fix flawed dem candidates. Convince more people to vote for better ones. Otherwise you’re basically asking them to suppress moderates that might want to run.
This is how democracy works, where voters choose candidates. But when progressives are only a fraction of the party, we need to expand the number of progressive voters in order to see results.
Biden is basically a guarunteed loss, so anyone advocating Biden when there’s the possibility of replacing him with someone who polls better, like Harris, want a dem loss. It’s really that simple.
There aren’t enough pep talks or backhanded memes that will change Biden’s inability to drive out voters.
The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election.
Americans really need to get over themselves. 😂
I get it. He’s old. So what?
No, you don’t get it. It’s not just a matter of age, it’s a matter of severe cognitive impairment due to his age. He’s a few brain cells away from becoming a gibbering vegetable.
It’s rather alarming that the only qualification to be the Democrat nominee is to have a pulse. Not a brain, not an agenda, not a set of policies and initiatives. Just a pulse and nothing more.
At that point, who’s actually making the decisions? Who controls the nuclear codes? Who is commanding the military? It’s not Biden, but some anonymous unelected staffers?
it’s a matter of severe cognitive impairment due to his age.
The alternative is a moron with a visible personality disorder. Someone who’s still bragging about remembering five objects, because he genuinely does not understand that demonstrating basic functionality is not a flex.
He’s also a fascist, in case you care.
This is hilarious. The dude is running the country quite well right at this moment. Stop buying into the BS hype the press is trying to foment for click-bait profits.
I have a very different opinion on the definition of “quite well” lol
Biden cant even run, let alone run a country
should I reply to a comment that has “He’s a few brain cells away from becoming a gibbering vegetable.”. I mean common. Is this in good faith. Will everyone get 100% behind a replacement from the party. I doubt that. I see no reason to replace him. He has a young vice president so if he becomes unable to serve she was also voted on by the democratic voters last spring. This is a non issue to me.
The other candidate wants to be dictator on day 1.
And has even less cognitive abilities than Joe
The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election
Been hearing this every four years my entire life.
Booting this incumbent and hoping his VP
I agree. Kamala is the worst politician in America. How did we end up in the timeline where we’re stuck in the plot of VEEP?
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The future of the WORLD is [fetchly] dependent on this election
Been hearing this every four years my entire life.
When something increases steadily, it’s always at its most. Democracy in America has been at growing risk, just like your birthday candles are always at their highest number every year.
That’s how arithmetic progression works
Booting this incumbent and hoping his VP
I agree. Kamala is the worst politician in America.
This world has convicted felon trump, two bushes and Nixon. What bullshit criteria are you using to evaluate someone intentionally kept out of the post-9/11 public eye against those people?
How did we end up in the timeline where we’re stuck in the plot of VEEP?
If you’re a conservative, you must remember when Johnson took over. Personally. Or is the memory going?
The future of the WORLD is literally dependent on this election.
Get an electable candidate then.
Coin flips are good now? Would rather have win or world over candidates be closer to 70/30 or even 60/40
