What does being Jewish have to do with it? Believing one thing over another won’t change that thing. If it’s a real thing (it isn’t) she’ll be raptured, or not, whatever her flavour.
Throw in about 125 years of majority black churches prior to the SCLC’s founding in the 1950s, and yeah, there is a whole history of churches with their roots in being formed as places of worship that wouldn’t threaten to lynch an attendee for being the ‘wrong’ skin color.
Its the roughly the same thing with a ‘historically black’ college or university: many of those were founded because other colleges were historically racist, would not allow black americans to attend, so they made their own colleges.
Yet, they love to talk about Muhammad’s child bride (not condoning here). It is very important to condemn some guy who died 1500 years ago, but not the human skidmark walking among us.
Not only are there a significant amount of American Christians who… believe that Trump is a / one of the AntiChrists / Beasts from Revelation…
I have actually met some who believe that, and still vote for him.
Much of American Christianity is a literal apocalyptic death cult.
Many Christian Zionists are actively antisemitic, yet at the same time, vehemently support Israel… because they believe in some rough variation of the plot line from the ‘Left Behind’ books/movies.
Israel has to be wiped out or under serious threat of that for their preferred version of the apocalypse to take place, and they cynically support everything that makes that more likely to occur… so that Jesus can come back.
And then me explaining to you how utterly uninformed your stance on that is.
So anyway… you are an … irreligious Zionist who also believes in ‘the end times’?
???
You seem to be actively advocating for ratcheting up international tensions, advocating for actions that make nuclear proliferation and thus a potential nuclear exhange between countries / nuclear terrorism… more likely.
You do love the bomb, after all.
Maybe you could try not having a ‘secular’, self-fulfilling, accelerationist style apocalyptic worldview?
The premise of ‘end times’ of that question couldnt really have been that the rapture is imminent, seeing as 9% of atheists believe we’re in the end times in your graph.
I can however guarnatee you that every single Evangelical American Christian that answered ‘yes’ believes in an apocalyptic end times scenario, as well as many most who answered ‘no’.
They still believe in some form of the theology of it, they just don’t think it is currently happening.
Source on these claims is me, grew up in an Evangelical household, largely Evangelical community, I’ve since deconverted… had to go no contact with my family over this and other insane things they do/believe.
Anyway, yes I am curious as to what those 9% of atheists and the agnostics mean by that… but it could be… climate change is gonna kill most or all of us, a nuclear war is probably gonna happen, hell maybe the Zeta Reticulans are currently massing their invasion fleet on the dark side of the moon.
As an atheist/agnostic, I believe the 9% are indeed people who think end-timers will kill us all in a man-made catastrophe while screaming the fire they set themselves is proof of god’s final judges.
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve personally heard Evangelicals justify … lack of healthcare, lack of addressing climate change, outright militarism…
…all comes back to their archaic worldview.
Sometimes they’ll directly quote scripture in their justification.
The latest meme going around the Evangelical tele/video/live stream preachers is literally ‘empathy is a sin’.
They’re all backwards, and I do find it amusing that ‘many would be fooled, and worship the Beast’ is kind of actually happening, at least allegorically.
They are damnable hyprocrites by their own logic, and they’d rather burn down the world than admit they might be wrong about something.
What does being Jewish have to do with it? Believing one thing over another won’t change that thing. If it’s a real thing (it isn’t) she’ll be raptured, or not, whatever her flavour.
woosh
Most Christians believe that only devout Christians will be raptured, therefore clearly excluding people of other faiths.
Most Christians don’t even believe in that kind of rapture as it’s based on a very problematic pseudo-theology.
Yeah that’s a good point. I probably should have said evangelicals, and noted that even then it’s a fairly fringe belief.
Most American Protestants do believe in it.
Roughly 40% of Americans believe we are currently living in the End Times, ie, the Rapture could happen at any moment.
https://baptistnews.com/article/4-in-10-americans-believe-we-are-living-in-the-end-times/
You may also note the Baptist author of this article is suprised these numbers are not higher.
Is “historically black” like Michael Jackson?
Oh jesus christ…
sigh
No.
No, it means that that particular denomination, that particular church or family of churches has had a historically super majority black membership.
Congregations like this are very common in the US south.
As a result of slavery and racism leading to blacks being forced out of many white congregations, black christians started their own churches.
Like uh, less Michael Jackson, more Martin Luther King Jr.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Christian_Leadership_Conference
Throw in about 125 years of majority black churches prior to the SCLC’s founding in the 1950s, and yeah, there is a whole history of churches with their roots in being formed as places of worship that wouldn’t threaten to lynch an attendee for being the ‘wrong’ skin color.
Its the roughly the same thing with a ‘historically black’ college or university: many of those were founded because other colleges were historically racist, would not allow black americans to attend, so they made their own colleges.
Same “Christians” that worship a child rapist.
‘God Emperor Trump’ was a joke untill it wasn’t.
Tends to be how the worldview of fascists evolve:
I’m just joking bro!
(They were in fact, not joking)
I would still hate him even if he were a worm
Yet, they love to talk about Muhammad’s child bride (not condoning here). It is very important to condemn some guy who died 1500 years ago, but not the human skidmark walking among us.
Its even more ludicrous than that.
Not only are there a significant amount of American Christians who… believe that Trump is a / one of the AntiChrists / Beasts from Revelation…
I have actually met some who believe that, and still vote for him.
Much of American Christianity is a literal apocalyptic death cult.
Many Christian Zionists are actively antisemitic, yet at the same time, vehemently support Israel… because they believe in some rough variation of the plot line from the ‘Left Behind’ books/movies.
Israel has to be wiped out or under serious threat of that for their preferred version of the apocalypse to take place, and they cynically support everything that makes that more likely to occur… so that Jesus can come back.
Honestly, that’s one of the more sensible beliefs they have.
I wonder if I’m living in the end times, and I’m not even religious.
How do you define ‘the end times’?
Also, it is worth noting that the last time I had an interaction with you on lemmy, it was you justifying the US bombing Iran’s nuclear sites.
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/19286517
And then me explaining to you how utterly uninformed your stance on that is.
So anyway… you are an … irreligious Zionist who also believes in ‘the end times’?
???
You seem to be actively advocating for ratcheting up international tensions, advocating for actions that make nuclear proliferation and thus a potential nuclear exhange between countries / nuclear terrorism… more likely.
You do love the bomb, after all.
Maybe you could try not having a ‘secular’, self-fulfilling, accelerationist style apocalyptic worldview?
Do you think Iran having nukes would make a nuclear exchange more or less likely?
The premise of ‘end times’ of that question couldnt really have been that the rapture is imminent, seeing as 9% of atheists believe we’re in the end times in your graph.
Yep, the asked question was vague.
I can however guarnatee you that every single Evangelical American Christian that answered ‘yes’ believes in an apocalyptic end times scenario, as well as many most who answered ‘no’.
They still believe in some form of the theology of it, they just don’t think it is currently happening.
Source on these claims is me, grew up in an Evangelical household, largely Evangelical community, I’ve since deconverted… had to go no contact with my family over this and other insane things they do/believe.
Anyway, yes I am curious as to what those 9% of atheists and the agnostics mean by that… but it could be… climate change is gonna kill most or all of us, a nuclear war is probably gonna happen, hell maybe the Zeta Reticulans are currently massing their invasion fleet on the dark side of the moon.
???
As an atheist/agnostic, I believe the 9% are indeed people who think end-timers will kill us all in a man-made catastrophe while screaming the fire they set themselves is proof of god’s final judges.
I would count myself in that group.
Can’t tell you how many times I’ve personally heard Evangelicals justify … lack of healthcare, lack of addressing climate change, outright militarism…
…all comes back to their archaic worldview.
Sometimes they’ll directly quote scripture in their justification.
The latest meme going around the Evangelical tele/video/live stream preachers is literally ‘empathy is a sin’.
They’re all backwards, and I do find it amusing that ‘many would be fooled, and worship the Beast’ is kind of actually happening, at least allegorically.
They are damnable hyprocrites by their own logic, and they’d rather burn down the world than admit they might be wrong about something.
It definitely feels like human civilization as we know it is nearing its end, be it from climate change or ww3, so probably that.
Most Christians aren’t very Christian at all.
wow, you must be a joy at parties
Oh man, if you hadn’t added “(it isn’t)” i might’ve talen your comment as seriously as you took the meme.