One downside is that i’ll have no more passkeys. The vault syncing, i can do via SyncThing.
Any specific reason that makes Proton Pass less secure? I am curious since I am using both pass and bitwarden at the moment. bitwarden for all my logins and pass for alias + their logins.
I like that KeePass on PC and Android lets you use an autotype feature if autofill isn’t working instead of using copy paste.
personally I use keepass for important things and don’t sue extension or anything that would pull from it and I use bitwarden for unimportant passwords. not that bitwarden is necessarilly unsafe but im a person who ultimately thinks its best I completely control the important things.
I use KeepassXC on my computer and Keepass2Android on my phone. Passkeys work fine and are synchronized across my Synology.
Same here, it works well, and the Firefox plugin works well for auto fill, too.
Just make sure KeepassXC is set to Automatically save after every change & Automatically reload the database when modified externally, on the General > Basic Settings screen.
I like KeepAss.
i use keepassxc and from protonpass and its great its a lot lot more manuel work but in theory its worth it anything with a internet connection can be hacked
I like that I’m able to use keepassxc as a keyring on Linux. I like that there is a prompt on access so no rogue script can real my whole keyring.
I’ve been using Strongbox since 1Password switched to subscription only and it’s been good. It’s based on Keepass and supports all the normal password manager stuff (TOTP, passkeys, etc):
https://strongboxsafe.com/personal/
I use the desktop and mobile apps, and keep my vault stored in my iCloud account so everything is always synced real time without relying on a third party cloud (yes, I know I’m still relying on Apple for that).
Why not just use Apple Passwords app since you’re using iCloud for sync anyway?
I tried it and just couldn’t get on board with it. Severely lacking in features that I use often. Would have been my preference but it came up short.
Doesn’t keypass support passkeys?
As you can see from the thread, this question is divided amongst the cult of “sensible privacy is a thing provided you’re not a criminal” to the cult of “everybody’s on a FEMA/🧊 spreadsheet and they’re working their way down”.
I’d say make sure you use a separate password for proton pass, it’s an advanced option. You are far more likely to get hacked for your money and password manager goes 97% of the way to defeating those attacks.
Don’t take your eye off the ball. The real threats to your wallet have always been the shareholders.
AFAIK, no; keepass does NOT support passkeys. TOTP’s are still fine though.
Sorry, I was thinking of keepasssXC which does have passkey support
Why not Bitwarden?
how is it better?
Look I love fully offline concepts just as much as the next person. But what Bitwarden offers me that those other solutions don’t, is to offload some of the mental load long-term. I like privacy but something are exhausting. Pick and choose your battles.
Less hands on maintenance and mental overhead to keep things synced and all services / files up to date. We bitwarden users have other stuff to do. Different priorities.
This is one of the things I decided to keep to the people who do this far more and deeper than I ever could. Their job. Their liability.
All my accounts are encrypted, cloud accessible, or offline accessible. Protected by a giant hash of a master password. It allows me to feel safe and provides the convenience of copy and pasting insane credentials needed in today’s times. Hassle free. Great features. The end.
*potentially even under free account if you choose.
oh, i was expecting bitwarden to be self hosted too. as long as they are trustworthy, i guess it is convenient to be able to pay to get this stuff done for you.
Here’s the beauty. You can self host it. They give you the option to choose your method. You don’t have to pay they offer free accounts.
so kinda like nextcloud, cool.
I wouldn’t recommend it. Losing your keys will be an absolute nightmare.
You’re no more likely to lose keys with KeePass or KeePassXC than with an online password manager, as long as you keep good backups, and maybe sync KeePass to cloud storage.
as long as you keep good backups, and maybe sync KeePass to cloud storage.
Yes, that’s the caveat. You’re paying for a managed solution so you don’t have to worry about that.
It’s not difficult or time-consuming. No need to worry or pay.
Disagree
All your info is stored in one file, which is automatically encrypted and can be opened by any KeePass-compatible program. If you want to access it on another device, you can use whatever sync/file transfer software you normally use to sync/send it to whatever storage provider you use, or directly to your other device(s). No need to do anything outside your usual routine.
At least KeePassium also supports passkeys.
Never self host critical things
Never say never.
It will always be safer to store sensitive information in a system that you control than in a system that someone else controls. KeePass is easy to setup, it’s easy to use, and it provides excellent protection.
It really depend on your threat model, Proton Pass is fine. Of course a self-hosted or local solution will be more privacy friendly but at the cost of being responsable for security and good backups (3,2 1 rule).
There is no black or white regarding privacy. You want to ask yourself what you want to protect from and is the investment worth being sovereign ?
Wdym by “threat model” ?
KeePass then you have your own file instead of relying on a third party. And you are free to sync it how you wish , syncthing is great . I left proton earlier since I don’t trust them , but never used the proton pass at all.
