Per Capita shows that China has a lower total prison population than a country much smaller than it in population. Both per capita and total counts are lower in the PRC despute having several times the population.
What people feel to be true is often very different from what is actually true. You will not get anywhere by arguing with tankies, they’re not unlike MAGA.
What’s your point, here? Marxists are bad because China has a higher population, meaning per capita comparisons are more accurate when directly comparing with the US?
You complained about Marxists, calling them “tankies,” same as “commie” or “pinko.” Further, I don’t agree that China is bad, as we can see it has a much lower prison population both in total and by ratio when compared to the US Empire.
I’m personally not planning on living in China, but I wouldn’t be opposed at all. Moving is expensive, learning a new language is difficult, and I’d be leaving my extended family and friends behind, but on the plus side I’d get to live in a much better country that is consistently and constantly improving, rather than a dying Empire crumbling under its own contradictions.
No I think anyone stanning for China and North Korea is a tankie — not a Marxist.
If it were that much better you’d have taken many more steps to move there. The fact is that it’s less advantageous for you to do so, not only that — they do not want you there.
There’s a variety of reasons why they don’t, but you’re more interested in establishing goalposts and then shifting them. I’m not interested in debating people who jerk themselves off about living in an authoritarian state.
Nobody genuinely “stans” countries. People support or condemn countries, with varying shades to each.
Further, a country being Socialist does not make it a magical utopia free from flaw. The PRC is better than the US Empire, but as I already said, I don’t have the money to move and don’t have the time or drive to devote to learning Mandarin. Neither of these are bad about the PRC, they just explain why it isn’t so easy a thing to say as “just move, lol.” It also erases that I want to help participate in building Socialism in the US, not just taking the easier path of abandoning it and letting everyone else struggle for that.
Moreover, the overwhelming majority of Marxist orgs at minimum support the PRC and DPRK. “Tankie” is just a pejorative for Marxist. There isn’t much to debate with you, you haven’t made a claim so much as you have spent time hating on Marxists.
The recommendation is ‘workers of the world, unite’, not ‘workers of the world, move somewhere that’s less shitty’.
The Chinese public would be more grateful if we overthrew our ruling class rather than moved to their country, for the simple fact that capitalism is a global phenomenon that harms both the international proletariat and the people’s republics.
Per Capita shows that China has a lower total prison population than a country much smaller than it in population. Both per capita and total counts are lower in the PRC despute having several times the population.
Yes, I can read the graphic and my own post
What people feel to be true is often very different from what is actually true. You will not get anywhere by arguing with tankies, they’re not unlike MAGA.
What’s your point, here? Marxists are bad because China has a higher population, meaning per capita comparisons are more accurate when directly comparing with the US?
I haven’t said Marxists are bad, I’ve agreed that China is bad.
Are you planning on living in China?
You complained about Marxists, calling them “tankies,” same as “commie” or “pinko.” Further, I don’t agree that China is bad, as we can see it has a much lower prison population both in total and by ratio when compared to the US Empire.
I’m personally not planning on living in China, but I wouldn’t be opposed at all. Moving is expensive, learning a new language is difficult, and I’d be leaving my extended family and friends behind, but on the plus side I’d get to live in a much better country that is consistently and constantly improving, rather than a dying Empire crumbling under its own contradictions.
Why do you hate Marxism so much?
No I think anyone stanning for China and North Korea is a tankie — not a Marxist.
If it were that much better you’d have taken many more steps to move there. The fact is that it’s less advantageous for you to do so, not only that — they do not want you there.
There’s a variety of reasons why they don’t, but you’re more interested in establishing goalposts and then shifting them. I’m not interested in debating people who jerk themselves off about living in an authoritarian state.
Nobody genuinely “stans” countries. People support or condemn countries, with varying shades to each.
Further, a country being Socialist does not make it a magical utopia free from flaw. The PRC is better than the US Empire, but as I already said, I don’t have the money to move and don’t have the time or drive to devote to learning Mandarin. Neither of these are bad about the PRC, they just explain why it isn’t so easy a thing to say as “just move, lol.” It also erases that I want to help participate in building Socialism in the US, not just taking the easier path of abandoning it and letting everyone else struggle for that.
Moreover, the overwhelming majority of Marxist orgs at minimum support the PRC and DPRK. “Tankie” is just a pejorative for Marxist. There isn’t much to debate with you, you haven’t made a claim so much as you have spent time hating on Marxists.
The recommendation is ‘workers of the world, unite’, not ‘workers of the world, move somewhere that’s less shitty’.
The Chinese public would be more grateful if we overthrew our ruling class rather than moved to their country, for the simple fact that capitalism is a global phenomenon that harms both the international proletariat and the people’s republics.
Yeah your words are laden with the same rhetoric that the other tankies here utilize.
Again, I’m not interested in a debate with alt-MAGA. Go live there.
Blue MAGA denying facts, literally the actual numbers and think that we just “feel’ it’s true” are pretty much the same as MAGA.
Per capita isn’t misleading, it’s more relevant than totals.