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Inspired by: “UK and France abandon plans to recognise Palestinian state at conference”
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“The genocide will have to stop … once you’re all dead.”
Neither ever stopped being imperialist, so it’s no surprise they’re going to back Israel. Fuck them.
really? THIS had to be AI generated? cant even draw a circle in paint tf
What kind of logic is that? The tool exists and it takes 30 seconds to achieve a comparable result to what would’ve taken 10-30 minutes doing manually depending on user’s skills. Is it only ok to use image generation for hard-to-do stuff?
10-30 mins to draw a single-panel polandball comic? Really?
But really, the difficulty of a given artistic process is immaterial. It’s more a question of if someone can’t be arsed to create their own work, why would they assume that anybody else should care to look at it?
Yes, really. And I actually think I was quite conservative with time requirements.
And why can’t you only judge the idea/joke aspect of the work? Sure, the execution didn’t require much effort, but the point was to convert the idea/joke.
Are holodeck programs in StarTrek automatically worthless because to create them people merely instruct the Computer what and where to put?
Ideally, social media is about human expression. If somebody outsources their expression to a machine, they shouldn’t be surprised when people react negatively to such meaningless slop filling their feeds.
The expression is in the concept not the execution.
There’s no point in trying to debate or reason with anti-AI trolls, most of them are neolibs or just regular libs anyway. If they weren’t they wouldn’t be barfing out the same tired ass talking points and using ad-hominem to attack logical rebuttals to their arguments.
You massively misinterpreting what creativity is. It’s not just “having a vague idea”.
Would it be creativity, that instead of writing a book I just published an idea (prompt) for a book?
You massively exaggerate what creativity is. It’s not just “drawing a shape”.
Would it be creative if I took an image macro, scribbled out 1 word and drew another on top like 90% of all handmade memes are today? Yes, it would.
This IS human expression. Human had a concept and realized it using a tool. Human expression comes in many shapes and forms. How is this any less effort than adding caption to a template image, which is 80% of regular memes? IMO, you’re just biased and don’t treat it fairly.
I am, in fact, biased against things that destroy the environment.
not to reply to two of your comments, just hanging around town rn ig lmao.
but:
better stop browsing the internet period, then. the last time you watched youtube or streamed anything it consumed far more system resources and it produced far more pollution than the vast majority of machine learning is even remotely capable of. why pick on the data centers used for AI when they’re handily outnumbered by infrastructure for other equally, if not more vain corpo products?
i genuinely mean this question in good faith, but, are you and others who harp on the environment in this discourse just ignorant of how the entire modern technology sector is actually built and runs? if your answer is anything but yes, then, why is your position objectively inconsistent and arbitrary? are you just too in the shit to realize you actually hate corporations and companies, not artificial intelligence technologies?
Go make a Poland ball cartoon.
Start right now. I’m timing you.
I think you’re confused. I am a human being, not your favorite slop machine. Besides, this is missing the main point of what I said.
Times a ticking and no Poland ball yet. You are losing critical seconds
Remember that the circle tool is not allowed.
really? THAT had to be digitally drawn? cant even draw a circle in pencil tf
These anti-ai trolls are like religious zealots… always happy to give you their unwanted opinions.
Also blatantly lie about facts to push their own agenda, and insist or assert that they’re actually true, hoping no one will seriously challenge them. Strawmen and ad-hominems are their favorite tactics to use in their debates. Someone should make a meme about this behavior and how it’s mostly turbolib garbage.
Is it against the rules to deride the use of image generation models in this community? Clarifying because your rules section says nothing about it.
It’s against the rules to attack and brigade users and communities which allow GenAI, that’s a dbzer0 instance rule which was voted on in [email protected], @[email protected] I don’t think that ever got added to the sidebar, but it probably should be soon.
Geez, I had no idea y’all were pro-AI, such a bizarre take I genuinely had no idea what line of reasoning could possibly lead you there until I read that. “Actually, AI is good from an Anarchist perspective, because fuck copyrights” is certainly one of the takes of all time. Screw artists and the environment, I guess, if it saves me a couple seconds making a meme. Seems terminally treat-brained, with no consideration of the actual material effects.
At the very least require it to be tagged.
Yeah, I originally joined dbzero because its an anarchist instance and I am an anarchist, but grew to dislike it cause of how pro-AI it is. So I swapped to slrpnk. But slrpnk is down and so I am stuck using dbzero till its back up.
I find it kinda wild that they are so pro-AI too cause all of the friends I have that are anarchists are varying degrees of anti-AI. Personally, I would be fine with AI if we lived in an anarchist society because no one would be negatively affected by it. However we don’t, so there is only a very very small niche use case where you can use AI ethically. Otherwise I see it as scabbing. Being anti-copyright shouldn’t mean walking all over artists and other creators.
“Repeat after me: Memes … are … not … created … by … artists”
“Memes … are … not … created … by … --breathes in-- AI IS STARVING CREATORS”
someone reported this comment with the report reason “Anti-AI Trolling in an AI friendly community”
What makes this an AI-friendly community? I just read the sidebar and don’t see anything about AI.
I do see however that this community’s list of rules includes this peculiar pair:
- Only post socialist memes
- Don’t idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
🤔
If the community rules don’t ban GenAI images then you can assume a) they are allowed, and b) complaining about them is not allowed.
someone reported this comment with the report reason “Anti-AI Trolling in an AI friendly community”
I like how people are treating any criticism of AI as “trolling.” Like, it’s one thing to tolerate AI images, but apparently there’s a bunch more devout techbros around here than I realized.
Only post socialist memes
Don’t idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
A surprisingly common set of beliefs.
Ahhh, yes i see the post in the div0 governance community. Thanks for clarifying.
UK is supposed to always have a tophat and monocole.
