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Kaity has just spun up a PieFed instance, which is open to anyone that wants to try it out.
PieFed is part of the “Threadiverse” along with lemmy and mbin. If you are already reading this in lemmy, then you already know what PieFed is about.
If you’re curious to try it out, or if you’re just looking for a way to avoid lemmy, you can find it at https://piefed.blahaj.zone/
Like our lemmy instance, we have set PieFed applications to require manual approval, but if you’re already a member of our lemmy instance, you can get auto approved by our modbot by quoting your registration code somewhere in your application.
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silly question and it’s probably not possible but i wonder if there’s a way to sync the sticky posts from this community on piefed too (or make this community more prominent on piefed) since ive been using the piefed instance more and more now that i got used to it. :^
We don’t have any stickied posts on lemmy at the moment, so there is nothing to sync, but as I understand it, they will sync fine
That being said, another thing you can do is turn on notifications for the community itself. That way, you’ll get a notification whenever someone makes a new post (not comment) to the community. You can do the same thing with individual posts too, and get notifications whenever someone replies to a post, even if you didn’t make the original post!
Post pinning should be fixed now between Lemmy and Piefed, so if the mods unpin/repin it it should work
but like in the main screen when you first go to the page where it lists all of your subscribed posts. sometimes on lemmy they would stick to the top from the meta subreddit. :^
Neat! I’ll have to play with it when I get the chance.
How does PieFed differ from Lemmy? At first glance, they seem like similar applications. Does it have any particular strengths or additional features I might want to try out?
There are lots of little usability improvements, and configuration options, but they are functionally very similar.
But it also has the advantage of not being written by the lemmy devs, which is a deal breaker for some folk
Could you please share context on the lemmy devs being a deal breaker?
One of the devs is a transphobe
Political stuff. The devs are also behind lemmygrad, for example.
The web site has a list of differences between Lemmy and PieFed:
- Comments with -10 score are collapsed by default.
- Communities are organized into topics. See https://piefed.social/topics.
- Image-heavy communities can have a tiled/masonry view, like https://piefed.social/c/[email protected]
- People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
- Hide all posts based on keyword filters.
- Keyboard shortcuts.
- Upvotes in meme communities do not add to reputation.
- Better UI design (somewhat subjective!)
- Improved hotness ranking algorithm (subjective)
- Voting is private.
- See also features for healthy communities.
- Each community has it’s own wiki. Demo
This list isn’t exhaustive; one major feature that’s not listed there is de-duplication, where reposts all get combined into a single post with a split comment section (one for each individual post).
People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
Cool, a women indicator
(The joke is Lemmy is sexist mods please don’t ban me)
You’re correct though.
Anybody who isn’t the ‘default’ cishet able neurotypical white man is marginalised in society and even online, we’re also attacked a lot.
Which is one of the reasons downvotes are disabled here. A policy I hope will carry over to PieFed.
Yeah, though sadly this seems to make people a lot nastier in their comments sometimes, or perhaps they are juat awful to difference anyway. We still agree they should be disabled though as downvotes sound awful and are often used for mere disagreements, or bigotry, in practise.
People who get downvoted a lot end up with a ‘low reputation’ indicator next to their name. You’ll know it when you see it.
Probably not, because we have downvotes disabled :)
Thank you, I was worried :3
Has anyone written about the functional differences between lemmy and piefed?
Lemmy is currently more mature and written in rust for safety. But development is very slow and the developer doesn’t seem that concerned. And lemmy as of five months ago still hasn’t put in development for mods to get their job done (https://lemmy.world/post/25339515/14978968)
Piefed is written in python. Devs seem more active and they’ve focused on speeding up popular features that people want from their social media discussion site. I haven’t used piefed yet. I don’t know if piefed actually provides more mod support which would be a big game changer.
The only solid number I know is that somebody a year ago compared their resource use and lemmy was using like 12x the resources of piefed.Edit: Ada hasn’t noticed any resource issues, see the rest of the thread.
Apparently it’s mainly more feature-rich/up to date/stable? That’s usually what I read at least
Isn’t run by tankies
Isn’t run by tankies
I get that whole thing but like…you don’t feel the tankie presence much, if ever, outside of ml/lemmygrad/hexbear. They just build lemmy. Like beehaw? Blahaj? Those aren’t run or influenced by tankies.
He also asked for the functional differences. Ideology didn’t really seem that relevant
Yeah, I don’t necessarily have to like the people who build the software I use. I don’t like MS or Cisco, but I’ve built a career on their work and I’m fine with that.
Not gonna use it then
I’m out of the loop a bit. I know basically what tankies are, but I’m dumb.
Can somebody tow me in to the conflict that I’ve been seeing around between tankies and… Everybody else? Because I find it hard to believe that tankies really are just fascists but for liberal values in the most extreme way. Maybe I don’t totally understand the depths of how it works and the implications, and the issues that liberals but non tankies take with…tank…ie…ism…(?) (Authoritarian left?)
Like maybe people just want liberal values and want it to be more ensured that conservativism can’t be as insidious, but don’t ACTUALLY want to murder and eliminate a bunch of people to do it?
Are there any mature, rational, honest, good faith, and genuine discussions that I can look at or briefly be explained that also won’t start a bunch of conflict in this post?
MaybeJust pm me.
Interesting, never heard of piefed before, been using lemmy for a long time.
What exactly is the “threadiverse?”
Lemmy Piefed and Kbin I think.
So content aggregators on the fedi?
Any activitypub enabled software that mimics the Reddit style of longform thread/forum style social media with distinct topics.
Which at the moment is Lemmy, Piefed, and Mbin.
I wish there were more apps with piefed support. I like my gestures. Nonetheless, thanks alot fort the instance! Piefed seems great, I’ll be happy to try it out here.
Apparently, your namesake (Interstellar) supports PieFed, but I haven’t been able to log in to Blahaj’s instance with it. It keeps giving me an error saying the API is not enabled.
Yeah, i quite like my lemmy app (even if it is pretty much dead at this point). Eternity UI is very cozy to me.
I’ll just mention, in case it’s not apparent, Interstellar (the app) does support swipe gestures on posts and comments; you just need to enable them in the settings. I do realize the Blahaj PieFed instance hasn’t even enabled the API, so the app wouldn’t work with piefed.blahaj.zone yet.
BTW, I like your username :)
Oh, nice, good to know! Also thanks :)
Oh, never mind, I just saw their comment about the API being enabled, so the app should work with piefed.blahaj.zone.
Is the plan to switch to it permanently?
Not particularly. There is no migration path between lemmy and PieFed, so we’re just spinning up two instances, and we’ll see what happens
Apparently, some communities have had some success migrating, so there might be that possibility if that’s the path you want to go down.
If that happens organically with enough communities, then it might be something we consider, but I’m not going to push people to uproot their communities if they don’t have to.
cool
Basically a message for Kaity, but I am getting a
ClientException: Request failed with status 400: Bad Request: {"error":"alpha api is not enabled"} , uri=https://piefed.blahaj.zone/api/alpha/user/loginwhen using the Interstellar App and wanted to bring it to your attention. Thanks <3
I’ll check it out. See what this alpha API thing is all about.
API now enabled!
Post about it in Blåhaj PieFed Meta:
https://piefed.blahaj.zone/post/34431
Piefed doesn’t have great 3rd party app support at the moment
Ohhh it’s piefed not pixelfed! My dumb ass was trying to login with pixelfed app -.-
is piefed like sharkey to misskey or glitch to mastodon? or is it something different all together? just wondering. i would love a differently developed lemmy so that would be great!
also just curious will piefed also eventually get downvotes disabled like here? i love getting rid of the toxicity of it :)
It’s closer to a fork of lemmy that is cross-compatible through activitypub
Its not a fork at all; Its built from scratch.
To the best of my knowledge, it is its own thing, rather than a fork of lemmy
I just tried it, I like this place :3
What I like: The UI is nice and there are many options that lemmy doesn’t have
What I dont: The lack of any formatting options for commentsThat looks to be a bug or something, because the formatting options are there when you edit your comment. I’ll raise that with the dev.
is there pie? 🍰💖
Ill try it :3
Do you have any thoughts on how the two compare in terms of resource utilization (CPU / RAM) given a similar number of users and activity?
I’ve been curious about this, because Rust, the programming language used for Lemmy, is supposed to be a LOT more CPU/RAM efficient than Python, the language used for Piefed. Python, on the other hand, is supposed to be much faster to initially develop in, which would at least partly explain how Piefed gained so many features so quickly compared to Lemmy.
We don’t have a point of comparison so far, because the instances don’t share the same concurrent user numbers, but it would be hard to beat lemmy, which is really light for the volume it handles.
Ok, thanks! Kind of what I expected both in terms of not being able to compare exactly and Lemmy being light. I appreciate it.
From what I understand (and note that this is unsubstantiated, because we just simply don’t have the same size userbase/activity here), while lemmy is fairly good, piefed is supposedly even better.
The caveat here is of course that over time, software maturity and changes in prioritization of features (sacrificing efficiency for functionality or ease of use usually) results in certain decisions being made that affect the resource requirements.
It happened with lemmy (it used to be way more efficient than it is now), and it will happen to piefed too.
From what I understand (and note that this is unsubstantiated, because we just simply don’t have the same size userbase/activity here), while lemmy is fairly good, piefed is supposedly even better.
Better in terms of lightness? I would be extremely surprised given the vast difference in performance and resource consumption of Python vs. Rust, and because apparently Piefed already has more features than Lemmy does. But maybe I misunderstood your point.
