The original challenge is to get doom running on random devices with their own hardware. If that wasn’t the case I could just duct tape a laptop to a stick and claim that the stick is running doom.
That’s some serious gatekeeping lmao, I thought we were past that. Having a high level layer makes it easier to run custom code yes, but gaining access to that layer is the definition of hardware hacking. Not breaking the original functionality (or in this case expanding on it) is still impressive and encapsulates the original spirit of ‘you can run Doom on anything’ perfectly.
Personally I didn’t think the pregnancy test one really counted, either, but I’m with you on this one. This isn’t just “I put Doom on a sex toy,” but “I put Doom on a sex toy and used game events to trigger its functionality,” which is a level above.
Also looking at the pregnancy test one now I might change my mind. They did use a different microcontroller and screen, but the pregnancy test already had a microcontroller inside it; it just wasn’t programmable. If the replacement microcontroller and screen had the same specs as the old one, it’s more than fair to call that a win IMO. At that point, it’s the same hardware, after all.
How is pregnancy test running doom if there’s nothing else but the plastic casing remaining of it and the ‘running doom’ part doesn’t have a single part from the original hardware? On this case it’s at least using the original display and buttons (I assume) while keeping the original hardware in place for ‘kill indicator’, but that toy itself isn’t running doom either.
I dont keep any gates, but if it’s enough that a case remains from the original hardware you can get anything bigger than your fist to run doom by ripping the guts of original out and replacing it with a raspbery pi. And in that case the only ‘hardware hacking’ is the hot glue keeping the thing together.
If you replace all the internals it’s not the same, I get your point. But not every Doom-run is like that. These days they run some kind of busybox on any smart device, so technically any smart device could run doom. But the way they do it is still incredibly interesting.
You just described any smart device out there, why wouldn’t it count?
The original challenge is to get doom running on random devices with their own hardware. If that wasn’t the case I could just duct tape a laptop to a stick and claim that the stick is running doom.
That’s some serious gatekeeping lmao, I thought we were past that. Having a high level layer makes it easier to run custom code yes, but gaining access to that layer is the definition of hardware hacking. Not breaking the original functionality (or in this case expanding on it) is still impressive and encapsulates the original spirit of ‘you can run Doom on anything’ perfectly.
Personally I didn’t think the pregnancy test one really counted, either, but I’m with you on this one. This isn’t just “I put Doom on a sex toy,” but “I put Doom on a sex toy and used game events to trigger its functionality,” which is a level above.
Also looking at the pregnancy test one now I might change my mind. They did use a different microcontroller and screen, but the pregnancy test already had a microcontroller inside it; it just wasn’t programmable. If the replacement microcontroller and screen had the same specs as the old one, it’s more than fair to call that a win IMO. At that point, it’s the same hardware, after all.
Except the original pregnancy test screen would have been something like a 2 or 3 segment LCD. They don’t need to display anything but yes or no.
How is pregnancy test running doom if there’s nothing else but the plastic casing remaining of it and the ‘running doom’ part doesn’t have a single part from the original hardware? On this case it’s at least using the original display and buttons (I assume) while keeping the original hardware in place for ‘kill indicator’, but that toy itself isn’t running doom either.
I dont keep any gates, but if it’s enough that a case remains from the original hardware you can get anything bigger than your fist to run doom by ripping the guts of original out and replacing it with a raspbery pi. And in that case the only ‘hardware hacking’ is the hot glue keeping the thing together.
If you replace all the internals it’s not the same, I get your point. But not every Doom-run is like that. These days they run some kind of busybox on any smart device, so technically any smart device could run doom. But the way they do it is still incredibly interesting.