Don’t like the price, don’t buy it. Don’t feed the hype. Play through your games. Mod it. Try a diferent path, a new class, a diferent character. Try indie games.
Corporations feed on the needs they create on you. Starve them.
laughs in PC
You think Steam games won’t follow console prices?
I can currently get AC Shadows (just an example of a new game, I don’t want it) on PS5 (physical) for a few £ less than it is on Steam. They’ve gone from like £40 a few years ago to £60. As standard.
If you don’t need the latest and greatest games and can wait a bit, you get a shit-ton of games on PC (including AAA Games) for la few bucks. Have a look at Humble Choice for example, Steam Sales, Bundles, other legit/official key retailers etc. I mean, fuck Epic but one could solely feed his gaming needs with all the free games they give away constantly.
Nintendo on the other hand: I remember that I bought a switch with Zelda BotK … sold it later on … years later I bought a second hand switch … a lot of time has passed … I wanted to play Zelda again … Zelda BotK did cost the same everywhere as on launch day … only good thing is the cartridge resale value was also always good for first-party Nintendo games.
gg.deals
New steam games may have $80 price tags at some point, but most of them will end up on that site for a fraction of the price after some time. Nintendo titles might go down to $70 after a decade.
Ah c’mon man, that’s just not true.
Nintendo games will be $90 after a decade.
Steam games do go on sale eventually, but the best deals are often not even on Steam any more. I’ve got like >1000 games on Steam but most are from Humble Bundle before they went to complete shit.
That’s true. I should’ve specified i use gg.deals to look for sales from 3rd party websites. Green man gaming is a pretty good one that often has $5-$10 off of new titles.
Chuckles in Steam Deck
I haven’t owned a Nintendo console since the halcyon days of the SNES and shit like this doesn’t encourage me to break that habit.
Held off on the switch at Christmas in anticipation of switch 2, mostly for the kids, think I’ll try them with PC gaming and see how they get on. I’ll get a lot more bang for buck upgrading my graphics card.
*$90
Hardly kicking and screaming when you can just turn away.
My game purchases this year have all been under £10. Last year the most expensive was Factorio: Space Age which I bought directly from their site. Most of my playtime this year has been in FOSS games and a few small indies like Soldak games.
You got any good tips for foss games?
Beyond all reason
Been playing Veloren lately. Lot of time in CDDA too.
I haven’t paid full price for a game since I bought my Steam Deck.
Sorry Nintendo - it’s going to be a hard pass for me. I think I can live without Mario Cart for $80
No thanks.
Can’t remember the last time i payed full price for a game.
But i don’t buy into the Nintendo ecosystem anyway, soI’m not defending this behavior but keeping up with inflation games that cost 60 bucks in the early 90s would cost well over 120 today.
I know they don’t do physical media as much or at all in some cases.
I’m just pointing out that technically 80 bucks for a game is still a good ways behind inflation.
Not defending it. Just pointing it out.
Digital distribution is far less than it was in the 90s, many games sell in far higher numbers they did in the 90s, plus a ton of other cost savings due to scale exist on the distribution side. Yes, costs are higher to develop some types of games, but quite a few studios are able to put out profit generating games at far less than $60 per unit sold.
Cost comparisons over time tend to not be very informative when it comes to products that have significant changes in costs over time, and games are one of those things.
Also not accounting for the fact that most games now release feeling half finished and are only made feature complete through patches (if the game sells well) or paid dlc.
New horizons released with large features missing from new leaf that were added in overtime, and then had a paid dlc pack. Smash ultimates new roster additions felt rather lacking until the dlc passes added in a number of long clamored for characters. And of course whatever is going on with the new pokemon games, now using dlc and paid home services to essentially hold peoples old favorites hostage.
Cost may have increased, but I seem to get less value for my money with every new release.
Which I recognize. I still feel like there is a weird disconnect between gamers and cost. If I spent 80 bucks on a game and I get hundreds of hours of fun out of it that was easily worth the money. I have spent far more on significantly worse fun per dollar events over the years.
I just find it kinda funny how gamers get with the costs of games when compared to their spending on other media. Like how many people complaining about the 80 dollar games have rented a movie on Amazon for 5 bucks or something. That’s a 2.50 an hour for entertainment at best.
I won’t be buying the console or the 80 dollar games but I find the conversation and interesting one.
There have to be gamers who are consistent in this—there probably is that potential hypocrisy in some people (at least, “hypocrisy” from the outside, we’re not sure of their actual reasons) but there are also probably people who are consistent in their behavior. I can tell you I’ve never rented a movie ;)
Yeah but you gotta remember the tech savvy pirating types are the minority by a long ways. Average Joe is just gonna pay the 5 bucks to watch his favorite childhood movie on a whim. Just like he’s probably gonna shell out 80 bucks for a game he’s gonna play for a couple hundred hours.
Game prices aren’t all about play time or pretty physics, or anything in particular. My top 3 hours played in steam are all from 2019 and after.
$99 special edition 1000+ hours
$70 for a game plus two expansion 800+ hours
$20 discounted preorder 500+ hours
All three just happen to have interesting and enjoyable replay loops. But I also have a few games I spent $60 on and played less than 50 hours and still felt like I got my money’s worth.
Recent intendo games tend to feel well done, but not groundbreaking or unique enough to justify being full priced all the time, much less $80 even if I was to get 100+ hours out of them. They seem overpriced for what they include and that is the real reason for the pushback. Nintendo chose the closed envirionment with everything eternally at full price and that is why people are pushing back in their case.
I could argue the Ace Attorney series was that for me (played on Nintendo DS, am not purchasing the remakes), something along the lines of playing less than 50 hours for $60 and felt I got my money’s worth anyways. (Okay, the individual price of each game in the series was not $60, but adding them up altogether… I don’t remember their price or my exact playtime, it is entirely possible average playtime is longer and I just totally misremembered—didn’t exactly have playtime stats on the Nintendo DS—but you get the point. Costs more $ per hour of play compared to other games with more replayability.)
You could also argue I got lots more hours of enjoyment from it than those 50 hours of playtime though, because I also spent so many more hours reading free fanfiction and looking at free fanart and reading fan discussions online… I finally stopped hurling myself down the Ace Attorney rabbit hole maybe 2 years ago.
I was curious so went and looked at my top 3.
Free now (paid 30 bucks for csgo back in the day) CS2 ~7500 hours
$30 Hunt showdown ~1200 hours
$25 beamNG ~1000 hours.
Now those cost per hour figures don’t take into account the thousands of dollars on skins in CS I spent over the years, but still. Even with the money I spent on skins and keys I got way more than my moneuss worth out of counter strike.
Hunt I bought a bunch of DLC to support the devs until they drove that game into the ground and now I wish I could refund all of it. Fuck Crytek and David Fifield. If that man ever gets hired at another company run from any game he touches.
beamNG I actually bought before it was even on steam as a tech demo on a stand alone client. Easily the best investment in terms of fun per dollars spent. I would give them more money if they let me.
Idk man. I do think 80 bucks for Nintendo games is a bit steep but if someone is having fun and they feel they got their moneys worth out of it I ain’t gonna bash em.
You’re right, but it’s also annoying that many people just totally don’t care for anything, And those are what bring markets down. AAA has become such a lackluster shitfactory in the last decade it’s baffling. But they still sell their shit, prices don’t even matter. Amount of stupid DLCs don’t matter…nothing really does. They could release a game that just literally flips you the bird and IGN (and the likes) would still say 7/10. Shit gets hyped and sold. The handful of critical customers converge to zero I assume. Neglectable.
I’m lucky to have a stupidly large budget for gaming, and most often just pirate stuff or buy indie games (And donate or just buy a 10 bucks indie 8 times or gift them or whatever)
I mean yeah. There are clearly a TON of people who are willing to spend exorbitant amounts on the same shitty sports game every year with zero improvements.
Until the consumers stop buying the slop and gargling down the micro transactions and battle passes I think AAA is cooked.
I mostly play indie games these days now anyways. If I am playing a AAA game its probably been out for a few years and I got it on sale from steam for like 75% off or more.
I think most gamers have recognized that AAA is garbage these days. Only time will tell if the major companies change their behaviors or ride that slop heap into the grave as many large and one great studios already have.
Aye. But even if “most people” (I kinda doubt it) would just buy indie then, it’s fine.
Same with the current *-flations. If 10 people buy my shit for 5 bucks. Or 5 people for 10 bucks. Or just one rich idiot pays 50…nothing much changed for the seller. Except he may save time, material, shipping, operating costs and…
Even Desasters like “forspoken” haven’t seen a notable discount despite its abysmal ratings. And it’s still sold. The garbage happening with gta5 now? It’s just ridiculous what happens in the gaming-industry and they still get away with everything all the time.
If maybe 70% of people stopped buying AAA it might trigger change. But 1 idiot that buys tons of ingame-shit replaces 20 critical customers.
Actually sad. I’m a gamer since pacman and pong. And I paid 70 bucks for the cartridges back then. No regrets. Then I went pirate for fun, then went legit and now pirate again (except for indie). That’s sad. Same with streaming like Netflix.
They could release a game that just literally flips you the bird
spoiler
I hate that I know something in the LISA series does this. Although of course it does actually deliver substance, and isn’t only a middle finger.
Lol, didn’t know the series. But I was thinking of no substance. Just a flipped bird,maybe along with some subtitles like “we hate you, you filthy stinking customer” and it would sell.
This was likely done in anticipation for the tariffs.
I’ll start by saying I loved Nintendo games. But I think I’m done. They can offer the games at $80, but I will pass. Oh well.
Remember: $80 from the big companies is only the starting price given the various editions and other monetization schemes they may push.
Also the scale and technical demands of their games, and thus their cost, have in large part been pushed by them, despite their attempts to turn it around and say it’s all organic consumer demand.
No thanks, I’m good with my Analogue Pocket and Steamdeck.
Unpopular opinion: Nintendo is overrated and is no longer innovation.
Never was. Nintendo 64 was developed at SGI and sold to Nintendo after turned down by others.
Quite a popular opinion actually.
There’s even websites like https://www.suedbynintendo.com/
Huh. I guess it’s not as unpopular as it once was. I’m glad to see that.
I haven’t bought anything Nintendo in years… but I can’t lie, that open world mario kart game looks sick.
