• John_McMurray@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Just cause you’ve never left your fucking basement, doesn’t mean others haven’t hung out with the hippies, burners and crazies in Portland, Vancouver, Seattle and LA for years

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      You know what’s worse than being a basement dweller? It’s being unaware that you’re vulnerable to propaganda, being unaware that you’re an emotional creature and your brain doesn’t try to make sense, it tries to connect stories and ideas to explain why you’re feeling what you feel.

      In other words, you can be a smart person and easily influenced into positions that either are not your own, or not even connected to reality just because you had a feeling once validated by someone saying the right thing at the right time and you don’t question the story that you start piecing together in your head.

      So the question you would need to always ask yourself, is what is it that you feel that you need to cling to such cynical and hateful stereotypes to the extent of even invalidating or denying the testimony of others who are directly contradicting your obviously exaggerated tales of “listening to hippies talk about jews.”

      You are describing a personal experience and because it validates some feeling you already had, it feels like a real evaluation of the broader world. Other people who do this include: scientologists, flat-earthers, modern nazis, cult members and generally people who just go through life angry and miserable and blaming that misery on others. Don’t be a pawn to others or your own brain, have some control over your narratives.

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          Wow, what a rational, level-headed response. You sure showed them.

          Everyone here thinks you’re the reasonable one. We all take you more seriously now.

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              5 months ago

              Something worthwhile like “stfu moron”?

              You can’t be this un-self-aware.

              Actually no, I’ve seen how you talk. Obviously you are.

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                Nah, that was the appropriate response to that moronic horseshit. It’s not so much how you say it, it’s what you say that matters.

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                  You actually think this is convincing literally anyone? Be honest now, I really want to know, do you think you look reasonable to anyone at all here?

                  Like you can claim that you’re the only sane person here all you want, but do you really think this performance is doing anything good?

                  For what it’s worth, I really do think it’s good that you’re saying this, because it shows anyone who’s watching just how vapid, toxic and hateful you are as a representative of the “antifa are the real fascists” crowd.

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                    I’m not trying to convince any you all of anything, that’s clearly impossible. I’m trying to tell you you’re fucking stupid and hoping it’ll sink in over time.

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      Just cause you’ve never left your fucking basement,

      So you freely and openly make up assumptions and lies about people based on whether or not they agree with you, and you expect me to believe you totally met a bunch of hippies at Portland, Vancouver, Seattle and LA. For years. You hang out with hippies all the time. Can’t leave your house without bumping into a hippie that introduces themselves to you with “I’m Antifa and I hate Jews!”

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          Never claimed I had. Good thing all the racist Antifa love in Portland. Keeps them all contained.

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            Just take a moment to bask in the notion that “it’s pretty plain you’ve never been to Portland” without any clarification implies that actually they do constantly bump into hippies that say, "I’m Antifa and I hate Jews!” or at least something along those lines.

            This is so unbelievably unhinged. I honestly think it’s bad to remove comments like theirs, because they show so clearly how wrong that person is.

            Even claiming they live on the coast as if that explains anything is just playing right into the Fox News canard about “coastal elites” which itself carries antisemitic undertones.

            They’re being so vague about it, I assume because they live on “THE COAST” and it’s all just so intense and self-evidently evil that they are completely incapable of giving any specific details whatsoever.

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              Jesus. Do you want my name and address? I don;t need to say which coast, it’s fucking obvious between hippies and the named cities. You people think youre being clever, but are really just showing you’ve not been there.

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                Ah yes, name and address, clearly what I meant by specifics. I certainly didn’t think it would be reasonable to specify the specific behaviours you’ve seen and in which contexts.

                No no, a city and the notion of racist antifa, that’s all anyone needs to take your word for it. I trust you.

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                    That’s it? Just “anti fa and communists talk about jews”? You think that’s anything?

                    What could I possibly want to know beyond that?

                    Oh gee, I dont know, maybe literally a single thing that they said? Maybe what was happening at the time?

                    No no, too much, I could dox you with that, obviously.