Israeli jailers would wrap Palestinian prisoners in shrouds and bury them alive.
As they began to suffocate, just before death took hold, a small amount of air was allowed in to keep them alive, only for the process to be repeated moments later.
Abukhater said the torture began the moment they were detained and continued until the very last moment before their release.
“Our hands and feet were shackled, and they struck us with frozen water bottles and bottles filled with olives,” he added.
“There, the soldiers urinated in a container and then poured it over our faces and bodies.”
My friend I think you are uneducated or over confident in your knowledge of Abrahamic faiths. Let me start with Judaism. How is it a warrior religion when (atleast original Judaism) until 20th century was a peaceful religion. Ironically of what you said, Christianity is the least connected to a real person or a real idea. The religion was pseudo dead for 300 years after jesus died until the Romans appropriated it and turned into an imperial religion.
Uh, the invasion of Canaan for starter. I’m not dissing Israelis. This is pretty factual. We don’t even know a single historical Jesus existed. We do know the Messiah isn’t supposed to present while Israel is a nation not in exile. But I’m just a beginner at kabbalah, and that’s irrelevant anyway. I’m talking historical fact. While Jericho and slaves building pyramids probably never happened, Israel invading Canaan probably did.
Anyway, I’m not arguing what we “know” right now. If the data changes, I’m so there with it. I wish you peace.
Look I’m pro Pali so this isn’t me coming from a political but rather a historical view. First and foremost. Judaism was a religion passed by language for generations before being written down, think how insane a game of Chinese whispers like that would go? Theyre book is pretty barbaric in the amolek stuff but actual physical data goes against any proof of any genocide or walls of Jericho falling down.
I am dissing Israelis tho, judaism was hijacked by a bunch of upper class elitist Ashkenazi Jews who weren’t being accepted into white bourgeoisie society so they wanted their own ethnostate with a little inspiration from European colonisation. Even Hebrew was a dead language being “revived” by Frankensteining modern and old Arabic into the new Hebrew language.
You are right, no proof on jesus or even abraham, and mohammed having any sort of connection to either of those two beings seems laughable (as an ex Muslim). It’s all an absolute joke but you look through Judaism entire history before 1850, they have never ever been a warrior people. Even the ethno religion is bogus since those born to Jews must do things to prove their faith as a Jew (I really respect even if that practice is both part dead part corrupted)
Christianity was also hijacked 300 years after jesus died by Constantine who all Christians have a boner for. Turned a peaceful religion into the apparatus of imperial power, more than Hellenism could have ever brought.
Of the three Abrahamic faiths only islam was a warrior religion and that mostly comes down to arabia being under the boot of that at moment two very weak and broken empires and them reaching peak empire immensely fast further cementing to the Muslim invaders this was the best path
Apparently I have to eat my words! Please accept my apology. I went back to
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah and skimmed (I’m stupid tired, I need to properly read this when my brain isn’t mush).
Thanks for sharing and I’d be interested in relearning history. Agree with ashakanazi assessment on the face , not again i also need to reread when I’m properly rested.
Accepted and no issues my friend, at the end of the day, it’s all about learning and further improving ones knowledge. In an age of misinformation and buzzwords, we should try our best to learn.
The depth of your generosity will be the saving grace of humanity, imo, expressed so confident here:
I look forward to learning and growing with you.
Thank you so much for affording me an opportunity to grow a little, in this exchange. May you be happy and well.
You’re far too kind my friends, I’m glad I can be of any help and I truly believe in the importance of sharing knowledge, I hope you found it interesting and you need any good books or recommendations, DM me!
I wish you all the best my friend, I also hope you are happy and well 😁
P.s you are the most wholesome person I’ve talked to online Reddit/Lemmy in years
Thank you so much for your kindness. I would indeed appreciate any recommendations for reading factual information! Maybe others here would, as well? Please feel free to DM your recommendations, but also maybe post a few here, in case anyone else is interested? Of course that’s entirely at your discretion.
You have been so kind in this exchange, I also feel you and the entire exchange is wholesome and enriching. It’s so sad that societies, in real life and online, has devolved into getting even/"owning” the other. In full disclosure, I went down that road for entirely too long before finally realizing it leads to nowhere good, for individuals or societies. It’s going to be a long way home, but I’m on that road now. I’m so honored to share the "road less traveled” with honest, kind people who will hold me to account with rigor and compassion, to both coax and prod, as appropriate to the need of the moment. I thank you again for the enrichment you’ve brought to me, along our way.
I do wish you all the best, as we walk together. I can’t give you a real+life hug or handshake; please know I give both, in my heart and mind, for whatever small value that may hold.