Spanish PM Calls to End Social Media Anonymity, Force Digital ID: WEF
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At the WEF, Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez calls for the end of anonymity on social media by forcing them to link all user accounts with the European digital identity wallet.
  • MithranArkanere@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Individual privacy cannot be infringed. The measures against corporations are a good idea. The rest are only good for official accounts so public officials cannot be impersonated. For private individuals, accountability only needs to happen when they enact violence.

  • Elise@beehaw.org
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    2 days ago

    And that’s gonna fix the yt comment section? People are just dicks that’s all.

  • Mr. Zeus@feddit.orgEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Yeah, tell him all the ways that would be dangerous.

    You won’t stop any crime or even any hurt feelings by doing that. You’re only going to punish people who are following the law.

    Criminals can fake their details

    • Mr. Zeus@feddit.orgEnglish
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      2 days ago

      there’s no benefit to any common man.

      There’s only benefit to the advertising companies and governments around the world.

      It’s a little something called “total information awareness” they want to know who everyone is and what they’re doing at every second of every day

    • smiletolerantly@awful.systems
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      2 days ago

      I have been scrolling on the front page for a couple of minutes now, and I was going to write that it’s literallyall conspiracy theories, but that’s not true, there’s also some “sponsored” posts AKA ads sprinkled in.

      What a sad joke.

      If you think the fediverse is too centralized, you can always host your own instance. You get all the same “free speech” benefits (plus no free-speech ban on drugs and porn), without having to put one foot into that cesspit of a site.

      • CashDragon@realbitcoin.cash
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        2 days ago

        Maybe it’s not for you, no one is forcing you to use it, it is not all about you.

        A woman protesting an oppressive regime with her posts may find it is the only safe place without getting her identity reported back to the oppressive state as all corporate owned platforms would do.

        • growsomethinggood ()@reddthat.com
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          2 days ago

          I gotta say, responding to “hey I think women and minorities might not be safe here” with “then maybe that space isn’t for [women and minorities]” is quite the hot take

      • CashDragon@realbitcoin.cash
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        2 days ago

        No, it is not. Mastodon is federated, this means your account is owned by the instance owner and can be banned. Bastyon is decentralized meaning there is no owner, your content can be blocked if there is a report and a random jury of high reputation users unanimously agrees that rules have been violated.

        • Allero@lemmy.today
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          2 days ago

          Reading more about it, I see it’s based on a blockchain, with Pocketcoin token serving as a currency to incentivise node operators.

          So, do I understand it right that every action and piece of media is distributed around all nodes, which are incentivised by crypto to keep going? And that user doesn’t normally operate a node per se, but has an account, similar to a crypto wallet, on this blockchain? Also, do node maintainer rewards come from users or the emission pool?

          For now it looks to me like a terribly scalable and wasteful system with potential for monetary enshittification. Also, financing is unclear: if it’s on users, barely anyone is gonna pay for everything they publish. If it comes from the pool, even if it is diminishing like with Bitcoin, what would generate demand for the token? Governance?

          But I might not see everything

          • CashDragon@realbitcoin.cash
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            2 days ago

            Good job looking into it a bit instead of freaking out like most others on here. It is running and working and has been for over 6 years if I am not mistaken.

            Users do not have to pay to publish. Advertisers can pay to boost content and get visibility. There are many people dedicated to free speech and anti-censorship so they will continue to run nodes even if they are not turning a profit. At this point nodes stake coins and earn rewards, not sure of the long term tokenomics, have not gone super deep on it.

            • Allero@lemmy.today
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              2 days ago

              Fedi is mostly hostile to the idea of crypto, which is why such projects are commonly a no-go for this audience.

              6 years is a fairly long run, so I hope tokenomics was somehow figured out.

              Advertising is something commonly rejected; I too see this as a strong negative. Paid boosting of genuine content is not great, but I’ll take it.

              Question: what advantages does it have over hosting your own fedi server? Anonymity? Not having to invest in hosting to get more control? Not having to build federated connections and rediscover communities?

              • CashDragon@realbitcoin.cash
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                1 day ago

                what advantages does it have over hosting your own fedi server

                Specifically in the context of this post you cannot be forced to collect any data on users or be prosecuted for not collecting because you are not hosting accounts, they are on-schain. Fedi is a very different type of platform and not really a direct alternative. Bastyon is trying to compete with twitter mainly IMO.

                You do not get any special access or control by hosting a server because it is just a node that relays data. This makes the network more robust and faster as a user’s app will connect to the fastest nodes for a better experience.

                Here is an in-depth article about the platform

                https://www.publish0x.com/at-scottcbusiness/the-guide-to-bastyon-and-pkoin-xznxqdk

                How does Bastyon work? - https://bastyon.com/help?page=faq

    • guillem@aussie.zone
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      3 days ago

      Had never heard about it but it comes across as a very noisy place with lots of Gadsen flags and videos about Disney supplying kids to Epstein :-/

      • CashDragon@realbitcoin.cash
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        3 days ago

        It is a place of free speech. The only rules are, no porn, drugs, or threats. You can block users if you want.

        The point is that it is not owned by any corporation and it is run by a network of nodes which are not easily shut down.

        • acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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          2 days ago

          No porn but ok to racism? Gee, I wonder I haven’t heard of that before. It’s not like there’s a free alternative with a Mastodon for a mascot.

          • CashDragon@realbitcoin.cash
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            2 days ago

            Mastodon is only federated, this means your account is owned by the instance owner and can be banned. Bastyon is decentralized meaning there is no owner, your content can be blocked if there is a report and a random jury of high reputation users unanimously agrees that rules have been violated.

            • shaserlark@sh.itjust.works
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              2 days ago

              No porn and drugs but „free speech“? Yeah right, no thanks. If my account on mastodon gets banned on an instance I go somewhere else.

              Of course if fediverse becomes too centralized the couple instances left might just defederate from everyone else, but OTOH what protects me from a couple individuals downvoting me into oblivion on Bastyon?

              They’re both decentralized in their own way but communities have to fight against malicious actors that attack the decentralization.

            • acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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              2 days ago

              3 options:

              1. Join a mastodon instance;
              2. Run your own instance and connect to mastodon;
              3. Run your own instance and connect to the worst of mankind;

              And you’re picking #3?

              • CashDragon@realbitcoin.cash
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                2 days ago

                If they pass a law that social media platforms need to collect ID the instance you run will have to collect ID or shut down. No single entity runs Bastyon and no ID laws can be enforced.

                • acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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                  2 days ago

                  You can’t even move goalposts right. If you run a server for yourself you’ve already collected the ID for its single user.

                  Since you’re not interested in honest discourse and are pushing an agenda, I’ll now block you. Have a great life!

  • Aielman15@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    A politician from one of the modern countries that still imprisons people for lese-majesty wants to end social media anonymity? Sounds like a great idea!

      • Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        2 days ago

        If you offend the royal family you can get punished. There was a case some year back about a rapper that sought asylum in the Netherlands or Belgium I think, as he risked imprisonment in Spain due to his song lyrics criticizing the royal family. It’s crazy to me that one could seek asylum fron an EU country in a different EU country

        • MithranArkanere@lemmy.ml
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          2 days ago

          To add insult to injury, Spanish Monarchy died ages ago. The house of Borbon is a French monarchy line. When they didn’t want them in France they should have just gone away, not moved to leech off the next door’s neighbor.

          • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            2 days ago

            There is a solution to the monarchies problem of people shit talking about them. Don’t be part of a monarchy.

            If they need help not being part of the monarchy, I’m sure there is something we can do for them.