This is the neo feudal internet. It is the end of any ability to lock your own front door to the internet. I saw it in my block logs for Lemmy and finally went to look it up. I don’t know if that is just dot world or otherwise, but there is absolutely no chance in hell that I will ever allow or use ECH or anything like it. That is some authoritarian insanity to expect me to trust a middleman connection for everything in the land of ‘please allow our 10k stalkerware partners into your intimate life via our app’. You have no way of knowing who or what you are connected to with ECH. You’re being forced to inherently trust a connection. Is software X/Y/Z connecting to malware, stalkerware, ANYTHING, you have no clue. What halfwit thought this was okay or some kind of reasonable solution? What am I missing here? I default do not trust anyone. Hope for the best; plan for the worst. If you want to let random people into your digital home, or are not worried about your scripts and code doing stupid stuff, hey, you do you. That is not for me. I want to know exactly what is connecting where and why at all times. Where is the libre internet heading now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfyrVYqXQRE

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    3 days ago

    If you don’t trust the server you’re connecting to, why are you connecting to it in the first place? The only difference between ECH and no ECH is that encryption starts earlier.

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      3 days ago

      The initial post is a somewhat incomprehensible rant but I think the objection is that any number of skeezy websites all have domains pointing to the same Cloudflare IP. So when a malware app opens a TLS connection to one of those domains, the shared IP doesn’t tel you anything, and the ECH prevents you from seeing with Wireshark just whose home the malware is phoning. You have to resort to more drastic methods. Better yet, don’t run malware.

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      3 days ago

      I don’t care for every website’s embedded nonsense pinging Facebook Google, and Amazon on every page.