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Shi Zhengli, the virologist at centre of COVID lab-leak theory, reveals coronavirus sequences from Wuhan institute.
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20241208004114/https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03982-2
SpinScore: https://spinscore.io/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nature.com%2Farticles%2Fd41586-024-03982-2
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Why are we still doing this?
Because libs agree with Trump that China bad, so it’s important to fight that still, especially as Trump gives them the excuse to rapidly and ridiculously increase their racist policies.
I mean, this is the time to investigate the standards of containment practices in viral research labs and start pointing fingers if they need to be pointed.
NOT when it was time to try to discredit the idea of vaccines.
Because Donald Trump is about to start slinging shit from the highest office in the land again
may0s did it (just like everything other act of mass killing)
It’s ok you can say cracker
I think it’s a bit overused
Chinese culture places undue importance on saving face at all costs.
If this was at all true, it would have been put out in February 2020, not in December 2024
It’s weird how anti Chinese racism is just accepted to the point some bigoted censored can just say “Chinese culture XYZ” and expect to be taken seriously.
The “saving face” is am especially weird one, because no one anywhere likes to be embarrassed.
You might have a point if I had not lived there and married into a chinese family, which is where that statement comes from.
Oh shit you’re right, no one can do this and still parrot stereotypes
That’s cute, which of the several thousand recognized Chinese cultures did you marry into?
There isn’t a single unified one, anymore than theres a white culture or Indian culture.
Let’s put it a different way, I hear it’s just a part of black culture to show bravado at all times. Now if you correctly recognize that as a racist statement, you can recognize the your precious nonsense as the racist shit it is.
And marrying someone of a race doesn’t make you automatically not racist towards that race, you ‘i have a black friend’ excusing ass.
don’t act like you’d not have said the same shit then, as you do now.
if this was all true, it would have been put out in November 2019, when the first rumors started, not in February 2020
Yeah true, it would have been November 2019. I picked Feb because it was when things started getting out of control.
I blamed them then and decried how they suppressed evidence and news then, and I decry it now.
Lets also not forget that their “Sinovac” is actually “CanSinovac” as it was only possible for them to produce it at all thanks to Canadian lab work.
So every other instance of “we investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing” is to be called into question, but we just gonna accept this because?
The latest analysis, which has not been peer reviewed, includes data from the whole genomes of 56 new betacoronaviruses, the broad group to which SARS-CoV-2 belongs, as well as some partial sequences. All the viruses were collected between 2004 and 2021.
Still a developing story, so it’s not conclusion i guess.
Even if it was peer reviewed there’s no means to ensure the input is meritable. The sample set was determined by governance. The implied conclusions were predetermined.
Part of the point of the peer review process is to check for that. This kind of satay would be very hard to fake well enough to pass the scrutiny of a bunch of skeptical scientists. And if it passes that any scientist will be able to do the same. Being able to force an other scientist to retract a Nature paper would be a high prize for any academic.
Part of the point of the peer review process is to check for that.
LMFAO. It’s authoritarian China.
It’s Nature. One of the most respected science journals on the planet.
It’s China, who’s authoritarian governance controls the dataset.
The fucking paper even says so itself in the abstract, lmao.
… anymore …
It’s too late. The Republicans already have their story, inconvenient facts don’t matter. The people who care about its real origins aren’t the ones making laws.
Republicans? A huge number of Democrats believe this shit too!
It doesn’t even compare dude. It is the overwhelmingly dominant opinion for republicans, like believing in widespread election fraud. There are a lot of democrats who believe it but it’s not even close.
Pretty sure the dominant opinion for Republicans is that COVID is a hoax.
No most Republicans know that it’s a real virus but what they generally believe is it is/was not as bad as we think it is/was and it was blown out of proportion. The Wuhan lab leak conspiracy theory is mainstream for Republicans. You can hear pundits reference it all the time. Do you not remember when they all started shrieking about it again like half a year or a year ago after a really grossly misinterpreted congressional hearing?
Wuhan lab leak conspiracies are mainstream. 52 percent believe the virus came out of a lab, including 59 percent of Republicans and 52 percent of Democrats, while 28 percent said it was from an infected animal.
Maybe try using numbers that aren’t over 4 years old over studies that are less than 2 years old.
85% GOP, 53% democrats. Yes it’s mainstream but the gap is massive. Hence why I said it’s not even close.
What those numbers tell me is the majority of democrats are just as stupid and chauvinist as Republicans.
The problem is bipartisan. We were fed anti-China propaganda by our media and government; this is the result.
Nancy “Go back to China where your headquarters is” Pelosi
Well they are. Even Fauci started backtracking on the virus having animal origins.
Yea I remember the “China Virus” remarks a certain felon made.
There was a lot of anti-Asian hatred.
My ancestry is Chinese, I’m a US Citizen living in the US.
And the felon is gonna be president again…
😖
People in US would rather have a felon, rapist, and a geriatric old man as a president than a woman leading the way.
says a lot about the country as a whole.
A lady commiting genocide
MLK Jr’s white moderate is far more frustrating than any white supremacist. Give “Letter from Birmingham Jail” a read.
