• bloubz@lemmygrad.ml
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    There is something very wrong with the French part (so I’m assuming with the rest too)

    1. There are 321M native French speakers, not 75M
    2. Some of the countries cited are not countries but extra territorial French regions

    Another weird consideration is that they total to 7B people. A lot of people have several native languages

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    Aaaaaah “Chinese”.

    A language family with many mutually unintelligible languages, large variantions in vocabulary and a script that us shared by all of them. And somehow we have to keep treating it as one language, so Winnie the Pooh isnt angry at us.

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      Yeah. It’s not like I can communicate with someone in Cantonese when they only know Mandarin.

      If the same script is considered Chinese, might as well put Japanese Kanji inside.

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    Why are Russia, Central Asia, Mongolia, and the Caucasus “Asia Major”, and East Asia and South Asia “Asia Minor”? I also think it’s weird they split Eastern and Western Europe since Germany and Bulgaria are the only countries I see from the region in the circle. Also Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan being in the “Middle East” seems weird to me.

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      I think those are old-timey terms that have been retired from academic and popular language. And anyway, Asia Minor means/meant Anatolia—basically modern-day Turkey.

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      I don’t think this image accounts for second languages (otherwise Hindi would be twice as big), and as I understand it the reason that English is the official languae of Nigeria even as an independent country is so as not to give anyone’s first language priority over any other

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        I’ve met a handful of Nigerian students from different parts of the country and they all spoke English as a first language. Also, the US is on there, we don’t have an official language either.

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          I think you’ve misunderstood me a bit. English is the official language of Nigeria. One of the reasons it’s the official language was that it was seen as neutral within Nigeria because it wasn’t any group’s first language. Or it was at the time, anyway. That was an entire human lifetime ago now, so it’s quite possible that things have changed a bit since then.

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    These kinds of popsci graphs are quite misleading. Unlike with the “Spanish”* bubble, the “Chinese” and “Arabic” bubbles contain many mutually unintelligible languages.

    *Also, Dude, Spanish is not the preferred nomenclature. Castilian, please.

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      You seem like somebody who might have an answer for me:

      A streaming service that I’m using lists the spoken language of the show, and I’ve often seen Spanish, Espanol, and Castilian listed. What’s the difference between Espanol and Castilian - is it like a regional dialect? Also I’m probably misinformed, but I always thought that Espanol was the English word for Spanish, which makes it seem odd that the service would list both Espanol and Spanish separately.

      * Walter, this isn’t a guy who wrote the Magna Carta, this is a guy…

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        Castilian ia a region of Spain where the “Spanish” language comes from. But there is not the only language there, and there was repression against the other languages there, specially the basque language.

        So, call that language Castilian ia also recognize that other languages exists within the country.

        (I’m not spanish nor a speaker, so, I may be wrong)

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        If there are two Spanishish audio tracks, I think that pretty much always means that one is “Latin American” and the other is “Peninsular.” I haven’t investigated this myself, but I hear that the “Latin American” track is predominantly a white collar Central Mexican accent. The standard Peninsular accent for media is a Madrid accent.

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          This is pretty spot on. I use español when comparing Spanish to another foreign language but castellano when talking about the language as a whole. The latter is the most popular in Spain because español is also the nationality and we also can speak catalán, vasco, valenciano, gallego, and others

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            From what I’ve been told they call it castellano in Argentina too, but I have no idea why.

            No ho diguis als valencians que ells parlen catalá occidental 😛