In reference of this post (TW disturbing) https://lemmy.ml/post/22541287 depicting a pile of corpses in front of a gas chamber.
I think the photo is fake. As I mention in my other comments:
I was under the impression that the Sonderkommando photographs were the only ones depicting the actual murders and cremation of the bodies. At least that is what Wikipedia says https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderkommando_photographs#cite_note-3 unless it refers to Auschwitz II specifically.
Someone responded that it is Dachau and precisely July 2nd, 1944, offering a link I decided not to follow.
But Dachau was not an extermination camp like Treblinka, Sobibor, Majdanec and Chelmo. Although gas chambers were installed in Dachau and other concentration camps, they were to kill unfit prisoners, not murder en masse. Crematoria also were installed to dispose of the dead. This is nonetheless a typical picture of bodies being preparated for cremation in extermination camps. And post-Operation Reinhard the main extermination camp was Auschwitz II - Birkenau.
From Wikipedia
Over the 12 years of use as a concentration camp, the Dachau administration recorded the intake of 206,206 prisoners and deaths of 31,951. Crematoria were constructed to dispose of the deceased. Visitors may now walk through the buildings and view the ovens used to cremate bodies, which hid the evidence of many deaths. It is claimed that in 1942, more than 3,166 prisoners in weakened condition were transported to Hartheim Castle near Linz, and were executed by poison gas because they were deemed unfit.[19]: 137 [25]
The main reason this does not sit well with me is that I can’t fathom how such a clear shot could even be possible, especially considering how difficult it was to produce and smuggle the Sonderkommando photographs. Additionally, the proportions of the pile in comparison to the building seems way off to me. Most of the imagery we have of the piles of corpses are from excavations of mass graves done after liberation, possibly from the footage used in “German Concentration Camps” a 1945 Ally film.
I have never heard of any such clear shot of the events that took place in and around the gas chambers. Of course I am not a historian and I have mostly learned through Wikipedia about the Holocaust, so please correct me if I am wrong.
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The link you decided not to follow gives a lot of context. Although in French, which I do not speak.
These people weren’t murdered at Dachau. They are being cremated there, after dieing aboard the prisoner transport train from the Royallieu-Compiègne internment camp.
The German Wikipedia about the Sonderkommando photographs describes those as the only surviving photos taken by prisoners inside the camps.
Just visit the KZ Gedenkstätte Dachau and look at the disturbing pictures that are exhibited there. I was there for the first time back in 2005 (before AI based pictures) and there is A TON of pictures like these from Dachau.
Why and how would it be fake? I just went and looked on the Holocaust Encyclopedia and found many photos of that nature, photos which I won’t link or post here because they’re graphic.
But Dachau was not an extermination camp like Treblinka, Sobibor, Majdanec and Chelmo.
Why do you think that this is evidence that the photo was forged? The conditions in Dachau were terrible, they could’ve easily died of malnutrition, disease and abuse.
You should click that link you decided not to follow. It goes into the context of the photo itself.
How would it have been faked?
Stable diffusion? Self-hosted image generative AI?
These photos have been around for decades.
Then someone should correct the Wikipedia statement instead.
Are you people downvoting because I accept I might have been in error? I would normally not comment but what are your true passions in life apart from being idiot hivemind drones? Like GTFO.
People are down voting you because out of all things you could have devoted mental energy towards today, you chose holocaust denial.
That is a total misreading of what I said. I am scarred by the historical fact that the Holocaust happened. If you are literate at all you can see what I am saying about a specific photo. You want to hunt Holocaust deniers? Go after JK Rowling instead. LOL
