• Zoot@reddthat.com
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    Does anyone know where I could possibly get a stencil like this? Feels like I could finally have a productive use of my time if I knew where to find something like this

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        A bit ago I saw a phrase about not glorifying death. Could have been the rules for a specific sub, I don’t have the hang of how this place works yet.

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          Communities on Lemmy follow the rules of the community, and the instance that hosts that community. So, this would need to follow the rules of [email protected] and dbzer0, the instance that left memes is hosted on.

          Both of these can be found in the sidebar on the main page of the community, aka [email protected].

          There are also some instances that will ban you for your comments/posts in other communities, but that’s not common for most places that you would want to post anyway, or unless you post something very awful.

        • 🏴 hamid abbasi [he/him] 🏴@vegantheoryclub.orgOP
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          I’d say that would be closer to the precedent to modern conservatism and lacks the connections to big business, distributed recreation and virulent racism but that is a valid discussion and point. I’d also suggest that bonapartism is a little bit too early to be called “modern” as a precursor as it is coming from the first and not second industrial revolution. I think both go on to influence the German Nazi party

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        Idk about that, but there’s def similarities. I think its dangerous to mischaracterize things that aren’t fascist as fascist, as popular movements which have done so seem to actually accelerate the spread of fascism. One a them dialectical historic contradictions.

        But I don’t say this to take the wind out of anyone’s militancy against the all but unchecked rise of the anti-democratic authoritarian right. By the time something that is almost fascism becomes fully formed it is too late.

        But it is worthwhile to use care when applying the term.

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          Hitler was explicit that he took inspiration from the US. The way the US treated the native tribes, in particular, was an inspiration to him.

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          I do know about it and I will call it as I see it, not only was the US the birthplace of fascism back then, but the fascists won and have turned the US into a fascist empire in the 20th century. America being the birthplace of fascism isn’t just my idea or opinion, this is a studied and academic one of fascism, what it is and where it comes from. The US already lost the fight against the unchecked rise of the anti-democratic authoritarian right in the 70s. The history has been erased and they are way more fucked than people know. This is how I see the US as a now outsider, I’m sure that reading this will put up all the walls of defensiveness and I am sure that many people will downvote me as if I care. I’m sorry if you live there. This isn’t to say you can’t still eek out a life there and pretend if nothing is wrong, it is a really large country with a wide variety of communities and people. The top though, well, they’ve been working since 1917 to make sure 2024 looks the way that it does.

          https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/how-american-racism-influenced-hitler https://www.americanacademy.de/event/populism-fascism-and-the-klu-klux-klan-of-the-1920s/ https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/fascism-in-america/american-fascists/0CBABBADBB6A84EFA9EBB0FC170C1306 https://fpif.org/the-ugly-origins-of-trumps-america-first-policy/ https://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/fascism-100-years-and-the-threat-today-by-jason-stanley-2022-10

          After WW2 the US ratlined the Nazi’s into their country and they took over in stealth, the red scare was a consolidation of Nazi power in the US. Since then they have stripped away every piece of socialism one by one there in a much slower burn than the Nazi’s in Germany to where you are today, two fascist parties and a population totally unaware of their own past, who the American communists were and are and what socialism is. The American oligarchs had to negotiate with the working class during the New Deal and they made damn sure that would never happen again.

          https://www.newstatesman.com/world/americas/north-america/us/2020/06/how-us-helped-leading-nazis-escape-europe https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/chasing-moon-wernher-von-braun-and-nazis/ https://slate.com/technology/2023/08/nasa-nazi-history-von-braun.html

          The business plot was ultimately successful it just took longer than expected and the last somewhat democratic election was in 1972. Nixon was an actual fascist and his cabinet worked to destroy the remaining pieces of American democracy and opposition. He got caught in the last gasp of the left and functional media, the one time fourth estate, but they didn’t miss a beat. They used their tools in the CIA to do so, the CIA being an organization that exists to manipulate governments, they knew they needed a media figurehead that was more likable than Nixon to give them cover. Regan was chosen and the first fully American fascist regime started under a puppet. He was checked out and demented and allowed these ghouls to totally transform the US culture and focus fully on destroying the legacy of the October Revolution. The Soviets were incompetent and never actually were able to defeat the Whites who took over control of their state enterprises, this was a weak society and the US finally had the ability to destroy it in its moments of decay.

          George Bush, who was the head of the CIA and son of one of the business plot members Prescott Bush, then became president and their decades long plan to collapse the communist nations and punish Russia for daring to challenge capital worked. They collapsed the Russian government, installed Yeltsin and transferred the means of production from that state back to the capitalist class now known as the “Russian Oligarchs” who were completely and totally aligned with the American Oligarchs. With the threat to capital nullified they set in motion the more of the business plot at home. Their controlled opposition took over from there, passed neoliberal policies like NAFTA, which they couldn’t have popularly gotten away with under a Republican administration, to completely destroy their working class and the remaining opposition at home. They made sure to repeal all the laws protecting the forth estate and the oligarchs consolidated their power over media and propaganda. At the same time they expanded the prisons and the carceral state which is the ratchet effect from my previous meme. Then those same people including Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Chaney, and the rest of the Nixon cabinet worked with George Bush’s son, the grandson of Prescott Bush, to steal an election and perform the final consolidation neo-liberalism and was the final nail in the coffin for that country.

          9/11 was their cover, created and executed by one of their tools from their fight with the Soviets, the son of a Saudi billionaire and was the spark they needed to enable and roll out the modern police state. Most of the people on Lemmy are too young to remember what it was like before then now but the police and military hasn’t always been like this in my own life and before I left. In the following 20 years since 9/11 they laid waste to entire nations, they murdered over a million people across the middle east and central Asia, turning on their tools they used to maintain their power on the Russian border and are now turning on their tool in Russia with an eye of balkanizing that nation and profiting from the wars they will sell; Ukraine is first, Georgia will be next. This is all while running the empire they’ve run since the Monroe Doctrine, extracting the wealth from all the land to their south and destroying any resistance and installing fascists whenever possible there.

          Now those same people (Chaney, et al) are endorsing the Democrats, the same controlled opposition of Clinton, who have moved so far right that they are to the right of the GWB administration while their political tools and operatives in the Republicans push the Overton window further and further right. This is what is so darkly funny about the people who are telling me this is their chance to beat fascism LOL. It is incidental who wins the election, they already won the bag there. The US is literally a Nazi empire. They have super max prisons and slaves in every state and are gearing up to build camps like the world hasn’t seen since WW2, regardless who wins. The population for the most part doesn’t question its militarism or its fundamental right to exercise power. They are clamoring to expand the regime of nuclear energy and weapons and the final piece is their war with China and the destruction of Eastern civilization. They will herald the era of nuclear terror where power will be decided at the press of a button and cities will be regularly wiped off the map to no opposition or mutually assured destruction. The Nazi’s learned a lot of lessons in WW2 about plausible deniability and secrecy and you end up with the hell scape you have today.

          If you are American the only thing we can do from here is run when you can or fight them when we have to in the streets to show them that the working class still exists. They lost the class consciousness though and they lack the ability to organize, look at all the lemmy users who are depressed and demanding answers to people posting memes. They can’t resist, they have no solidarity with each other, and they are fully occupied by their toys. The oligarchs up to now have been very careful to protect the white people there so they are fully blinded and entrenched with a kay-fabe reality. The oligarchs are no longer afraid of them though and haven’t been in some time. The despair and hopelessness coming from there are the first cracks in the system. The school shootings and random violence are one of the results of this, expect that to get worse. We all lost the cold war. https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691019413/we-all-lost-the-cold-war

          The take away from all this though isn’t pure hopelessness. This is just a description what happened in US and 350 million of almost 9 billion people in the world. Their plans for the rest of the world and themselves are not guaranteed and fascism is ultimately unsustainable. The petrol they use to power it is running out and they will not succeed. The global south will to rise to the occasion and resist and we will be victorious against the American empire. The future of humanity will come from where the bulk of us actually live.

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            Well there’s some things i agree with strongly, although I believe I still disagree with your definition of the word “fascist.” But it’s not an important difference since you’ve taken it up to actually try and learn history and make sense of it all. Very “class conscious worker” of you.

            Do you do any organizing outside of your studies? You seem energetic, and class conscious workers have to get together and (imo) do political organizing, like how you discussed. I agree its a lousy time for consciousness but it think its changing. Time will tell. Thanks for the history lesson, appreciate you making time

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    The only reason he blew his brains out was because he got news what happened to benito mussolini didn’t want his body desecrated.

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      Though typing it out gets us banned from the larger, compromised communities…smh.

      Some fascist mods on compromised subreddits and lemmy communites are banning people just for calling out fascists/fascism now. How ironically ass-backwards is that? Lol

      “If you say fascist people and actions are fascist, we will censor and eliminate you!”

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          This is widespread and has been ongoing for almost a decade now, when reddit started turning hard towards fascism and censorship. Just like reddit, some of the larger communities here have been infiltrated and ran by controlled opposition fascists.

          In fact, the reason the last mod gave for banning me from PoliticalMemes without a warning was suggesting they were controlled opposition, since they were making very pro-fascist arguments, but trying (and failing) to portray themselves as left wing.

          Check out my first few comments on this account for a direct example of .world admins and mods on PoliticalMemes in this case, banning for “calling people fascist”. First immediate ban from the community without warning, then they pushed for an instance-wide ban that .world admins gladly obliged.

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            I have looked at the lemmy.world mod log for both accounts.

            The mod asked you what you meant by controlled opposition twice, they did give you warnings. You also called everyone who downvoted your comment fascist they also made no pro-fascist arguments as far as i saw(please correct me if im wrong)

            Since you said its widespread, do you have any other examples? I may be missing context and would love to see more definitive proof that there is a problem with communities being compromised by fascist mods

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              Typical…Asking for proof of universally known facts in a weak attempt to sow doubt in the ignorant. Then, minimizing and/or denying the proof that was spoon fed to you.

              Leftists would NEVER jump at the chance to defend fascism like you and the mod I referenced at PoliticalMemes (they went even further and denied the Palestinian genocide is happening and been ongoing for about 75 years by calling it “propaganda”)

              You can point out a fascist plain and simply by them speaking in defense of fascism/fascists.

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                Its not universally known, i dont know about that

                I havent denied anything that happened in Palestine, i have said that i might have missed something

                I dont want to sow doubt or anything, i just asked for a source that couldnt be explained with another reason

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                  You’ve made your intentions and leanings clear by immediately demonizing my overtly anti-fascist comment and defending the fascist who banned me without legitimate cause, who called my entire comment propaganda (my comment pointing out the ongoing Palestinian genocide).

                  Have a great weekend.

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              I have looked at the lemmy.world mod log for both accounts.

              I posted the entire thing for everyone to see. There is no “gotcha”, just exposing fraudulent .world mods and admins.

              The mod asked you what you meant by controlled opposition twice, they did give you warnings.

              This is 100% irrelevant to any rules they claimed i broke, and is showing your fascist leanings for taking the side of the fascist instead of question why that would be grounds for a ban in the first place. Lmao speaking about controlled opposition infiltrators… And NO THAT WASN’T A WARNING, SINCE IT DIDNT BREAK ANY RULES.

              You also called everyone who downvoted your comment fascist

              I strongly suggested everyone who downvoted my anti-fascist, anti-zionist, anti-genocide comment, was probably one of the categories I was arguing against, and I stand by it. Wtf are you doing in a leftist community RandomVideos? Rhetorical. No true left wingers would be speaking like you are right now.

              they also made no pro-fascist arguments as far as i saw(please correct me if im wrong)

              They 100% did by accusing my comment of being propaganda.

              If you didn’t out yourself already by asking “I’ve never seen fascist mods banning people for nonsense, can you pwetty pwease give me an example?”, then you absolutely have now.

              Pathetic. And exactly what I’m talking about when saying controlled opposition. Fascist/Zionist infiltrators claiming to be the same as the majority of the group, but then poisoning it with with fascist/zionist ideology and arguments, with the goal of having one of them placed as moderator to have total control over speech, narrative, censorship, banishment.

              The fact that you agree with fascists that mildly suggesting they are controlled opposition for accusimg the facts i posted as “propaganda” was worth being banned, AND THAT YOU READ THOSE FACTS YOURSELF AND HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM, says everything about you that actual left wingers need to know.

              Typical low IQ fascists keep proving me right. Now give your handler a refund for your poor performance.

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                I asked if you had more examples because i would prefer to trust the mod log more than some pictures that could easily be faked or missing context

                I never said that you were rightly punished, i dont know enough about the subject or about moderation to claim that. I just said that it didnt mean the moderators are fascists. You never said that genocide is bad or that that fascism is bad. I dont think that the people who downvoted your comment did that because you called Israel a terrorist state, they probably did because they thought you were saying that both parties are the same(and after the edit that, saying that everyone who downvoted is a fascist).
                I also dont agree with people just saying “propaganda” without actually attempting to explain why the comment is wrong, but that doesnt mean they believed in a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology.

                The problem wasnt that you mildly suggested that they were controlled by the opposition, they thought that you were claiming that they were gouvernment agents, thats why they asked you what you meant by “controlled opposition”.

                To be clear: i hate authoritarianism, i hate capitalism, i believe people shouldnt be punished for existing or for being happy without hurting other people, me and my dad would probably get killed under fascism and i am the opposite of nationalist I dont want to attack you or say that you were rightly banned, i just hate people using words as generic insults and was curious if the problem was real or just someone miss-using the word

                Also, they banned you for only 3 days for the comment

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                  They permanently banned me from their community without warning, then went further to harrass me by falsely reporting me to admins and got me banned from the entire .world instance.

                  You still talk only in defence of fascists’ unjustfiable actions continuously and trying to vilify me for speaking out against fascism and genocide. Your words are meaningless.

                  There is no universe where you and the fascist who banned me for implying they are controlled opposition after they implied the Palestinian genocide is propaganda (something you are weirdly obsessed with, that doesn’t break any rules) are the good guys in this scenario.

                  All you keep doing is showing that you don’t give a shit about genocide and the fascist monopolized 2-party system that my comment was arguing against, you just poorly try to make me look bad by attempting to gaslight the fact that nothing I said was grounds for censorship or ban and keep trying to push that i implied they were controlled opposition as something “bad”.

                  Arguing with fascists and zionists is a massive waste of time, and I’ve filled my quota for the day. So long as I struck a cord and wasted their time as well, I’ve accomplished my good deed for the day. Ciao

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              Almost like the problem isn’t with lemmy.world, but with the user?

              Who would have thought?