A couple of months ago I wrote a single comment under a post about a hateful rage upon israel in c/news, literally I wrote “What could Hamas do to end the violence?”

Nothing else.

And I got immediately banned.

The moderators refuse to answer my messages.

Not even that, they even banned a buddy who spoke up in my defence per message - not per c/news but really just a personal message to be sure.

In 15 years of Reddit my posts got deleted a lot - but NEVER my comments and I got NEVER banned for anything.

If this is what Lemmy wants to be, then be it but without me.

Do you think this is what Lemmy needs to be?

  • BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I disagree with your ban, even if I agree with the reason for it.

    But saying Reddit doesn’t ban people proves that you are either disingenuous or deeply ignorant. Reddit is infamous for banning dissenters. It’s one of the big reasons I left for the greener (though still awfully ban-happy) pastures if Lemmy.

    • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.ccEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Hmm yes, genocide denial and deny having a fight in the comment as “nothing else”.

      OP can’t let it rest lol.

  • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    2 months ago

    “What could Hamas do to end the violence?”

    Nothing else.

    And I got immediately banned.

    Making excuses for genocide being something that gets you banned is a lemmy I’m fine with

  • IncongruousMonkey@aussie.zoneEnglish
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    2 months ago

    You’re conflating “Lemmy” with the behavior of a single instance. This is actually the strength of a federated platform; don’t like how an instance or community is operating? start your own or move to one more to your way of thinking.

  • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 months ago

    You’ll need to be specific about which news community. Because if it’s lemmy.ml, yeah, we don’t go there for a reason.

    But even if it’s any other, yes, Lemmy is designed to allow each instance admin to run it as they see fit. If you don’t like it, you will have to go to another or create your own.

    • Crass Spektakel@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Thanks for joining my side. As you can see this wasn’t the post which led to the ban.

      Uhm, what is wrong about chaining prisoners? I mean, that is exactly what you do when you arrest someone suspected to be violent.

  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catEnglish
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    2 months ago

    A lot of Lemmy mods, especially on Lemmy.ml and Lemmy.world, see themselves as arbiters of what people are and aren’t allowed to say.

    It’s very weird. It is the Reddit model that they’ve inherited, and you can avoid it to a certain extent by just avoiding those communities and instances that tend to do things that way. But I think at the end of the day that this model of moderation is simply always going to have this failure mode attached to it. It’s a silly thing for anyone to agree to who is an adult who can speak their mind unmonitored by a chaperone who is approving or banning each message like some sort of schoolmarm overseeing the class discussion and ordering someone out if they get out of line. We only put up with it because most mods are fine, the damage is slight most of the time, and it’s hard to find an alternative.

    I wrote more on the topic in this exact community a while back if you want to read. I plan to write up a part 2 which includes some guesses for what could be done about it. If you want, I can send you a note when it’s written.

    • Crass Spektakel@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      No.

      Reddit rarely bans. VERY rarely.

      And NEVER for comments.

      Sure, they delete like hell. Posting something in r/news is harder than landing on the moon, same goes for r/noncredibledefence and other Reddits.

      But Lemmy is going bonkers, many high-profile Communities are held under an iron thumb like the moderators are all paid by the Axis-of-Evil (Russia, Iran, North-Korea).

    • Crass Spektakel@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Please do so. I must say that my activity on Lemmy has already dropped dramatically but I still open it once a month or so and read all messages in the communities I moderate.

  • beleza pura@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
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    2 months ago

    how about not defending a terrorist state? maybe you should ask what israel could do to end the violence since it was the one to start it, not hamas

    enjoy your ban

      • beleza pura@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
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        2 months ago

        it’s not offtopic. you defended the current-day equivalent of nazi germany and got rightfully banned for it. deal with it

        • Crass Spektakel@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Well, 172 nations on Earth see it like this:

          Israel is a friendly state in hostile neighbourhood…

          Hamas and Hisbollah are terrorist organisations.

          Or least they were. Nowadays we better speak in past tense about them. This bites you, doesn’t it?

          I’d rather take my ban in some hate-spreader Community with pride when justice in the real world rules over terrorism.