You may as well point fingers at all the various Islamic, Indian, African, or even indigenous “Amerindian” empires then. But your whataboutism ignores the fact that these empires were vastly different from the system of imperialism as practiced by the west.
It’s like saying “black people enslaved other blacks too,” or “what about the Arab slave trade,” or “indigenous peoples killed each other all the time.” Sure, but the specifics of how the west did it are a world of difference, and you’re a racist for saying it that way.
It isn’t a whataboutism. It is defining the lines of the issues hitting us all.
It is and always has been the class war. Always.
Governments are not your friend. Intelligence agencies work closer with their opposing intelligence agency than the citizens they should be protecting.
And you think this has what to do with modern China? This is like criticising the USSR for Tsarism. You realise the CPC overthrew the previous system? And when it did, it had the cultural revolution to overcome the trappings of that system, for which it is regularly criticised?
Do you actually think the current government is a continuation of imperialist China? Feudal China ended with the revolution. Mao was an anti-imperialist. The PRC is built from ideological opposition to all forms of imperialism.
Do you think the current culture is cleaned entirely of what predicates it? Absolutely not.
But go read the first comment he uses the word centuries. On that scale, China is king imperial. To this day, China still does imperial bullshit and if you don’t think they do you don’t understand how countries today exist and function.
So the existence of a state is evidence of imperialism? Even if the creation of that state brought a deliberate, ideologically-driven and measurable end to the imperial and feudal systems that preceded it?
Lol what is this picking at semantics bullshit eh?
You know what an imperialist is. Invader, conquerer. Kings, emperors. Controlling resources that aren’t yours through political, financial or military force.
You gonna try to say Alexander the Great wasn’t an imperialist because the term didn’t exist then or something silly and asinine?
China? They’ve been subject to colonialism and imperialism since the 19th century, it only ended with the foundation of the PRC.
And before that we had… imperial China. You know the one they refer to as the longest standing empire?
Like…
You may as well point fingers at all the various Islamic, Indian, African, or even indigenous “Amerindian” empires then. But your whataboutism ignores the fact that these empires were vastly different from the system of imperialism as practiced by the west.
It’s like saying “black people enslaved other blacks too,” or “what about the Arab slave trade,” or “indigenous peoples killed each other all the time.” Sure, but the specifics of how the west did it are a world of difference, and you’re a racist for saying it that way.
It isn’t a whataboutism. It is defining the lines of the issues hitting us all.
It is and always has been the class war. Always.
Governments are not your friend. Intelligence agencies work closer with their opposing intelligence agency than the citizens they should be protecting.
How do none of you see this lol
aight bro, i am going to hold the PRC accountable for the cruelties of the ming dynasty or whatever.
And you think this has what to do with modern China? This is like criticising the USSR for Tsarism. You realise the CPC overthrew the previous system? And when it did, it had the cultural revolution to overcome the trappings of that system, for which it is regularly criticised?
Do you actually think the current government is a continuation of imperialist China? Feudal China ended with the revolution. Mao was an anti-imperialist. The PRC is built from ideological opposition to all forms of imperialism.
No.
Do you think the current culture is cleaned entirely of what predicates it? Absolutely not.
But go read the first comment he uses the word centuries. On that scale, China is king imperial. To this day, China still does imperial bullshit and if you don’t think they do you don’t understand how countries today exist and function.
So the existence of a state is evidence of imperialism? Even if the creation of that state brought a deliberate, ideologically-driven and measurable end to the imperial and feudal systems that preceded it?
Lol what definition of imperialism are you using to make this accusation.
Lol what is this picking at semantics bullshit eh?
You know what an imperialist is. Invader, conquerer. Kings, emperors. Controlling resources that aren’t yours through political, financial or military force.
You gonna try to say Alexander the Great wasn’t an imperialist because the term didn’t exist then or something silly and asinine?
imperialism is when emperors, and even in that framework china is not imperialist.