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              That’s literally what voting for the lesser of two evils does.

              If you want to start moving to the left, you need to vote for a left wing party.

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                If you say that as a US resident, you either don’t understand how our electoral system works, or you’re trying to push some fifth column bullshit.

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          Maybe, but that argument is getting harder and harder for neoliberals to make as the DNC continues trying to court the far-right on things like immigration, genocide and corporate welfare. They’ve done such an incompetent job of protecting our most basic freedoms from fascists that it makes it hard to claim they aren’t complicit.

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          Ah yes the non Fascist Democrats sanctioning the ICC.

          Slightly more “moderate” Fascists are Fascists as well.

          Democrats are more right wing than 2016 Republicans right now. It’s time to abandon this myth that voting for them is somehow going to fix anything.

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              Bro we’re just sanctioning the ICC for proscecuting war criminals. We’re abusing presidential powers to ship weapons used to commit Genocide and also abuse those power to bypass congress the same way Trump did. Just abusing presidential powers to implement illegal border policies. Bro stop nitpicking you only mentioned like 5 things you can’t even mention 6 things bro.

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            You keep using the word fascist but I don’t think you understand what it means… The fact that this was voted on and the party was divided is proof that it isn’t fascism

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              So you are saying that if I find votes the republicans are divided on you magically have a point? Why is the party not voting as a party to begin with? Does this mean that some Democrats are actually Republicans if it’s not convenient?

              We just went from a 2 party to a 1.5 party system in order to deny the Democrats are getting in line to pass this highly Fascist law to sanction the ICC for proscecuting war criminals.

              Tell me what was the point of voting Democrat instead of Republican again? To prevent literally this right?

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                So you want the party to vote as a block no matter what? And you’re complaining about fascism? Do you realize how ridiculous that is?

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                  Okay so fascism is when the Republicans vote the same.

                  Now I pull up this article and you say the Republicans are not fascists right?

                  When it comes to Democrats doing the Fascist thing suddenly people slap on all these interesting requirements for it to be Fascism. When Trump did a Muslim ban it was super duper Fascism instantly. Selling weapons to Saudi for the Genocide of Yemenis? Omega Fascism! Biden uses the same powers to support GENOCIDE but suddenly it doesn’t count because the sun and the moon aren’t aligned in June and the grass on my lawn grows a little faster than usual.

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      About 25% of Democrats compared to 100% of Republicans. But sure, go off about how the Democrats are the bad guys here

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        Mhhh move that goalpost baby.

        Natanael thought it was really important to mention to me that Democrats don’t do this “Republican” stuff. He specifically mentioned this specific ICC sanctioning to distinguish the Democrats and Republicans. Surely he will change his mind right now right?

        When 25% of your party is down with sanctioning the institution prosecuting Genocidal war criminals which will very likely be convicted for Genocide in the future, it’s Nein o clock.

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          Wait, so a different guy on a different thread said something and you think that means I’m moving goalposts?

          Fucking hell man, get a grip. 75% of Democrats voted against this and you’re here ranting about them instead of the 100% of Republicans who voted for it.

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            So what you’re saying is the problem is not Democrats jumping the fence as much as needed to do whatever israel asks, the real problem is that we should have had 32% more Democrats to make up for the percentual difference in traitors?

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      The last guy who got so obsessed with me over on reddit ended up permabanned after everybody got sick of them

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        When someone proves you wrong and @'s you one single time in ever they are practically a stalker.

        I am glad you now changed your mind on this subject after being provided evidence.