• kata1yst@sh.itjust.works
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    25 days ago

    So what you’re saying is, such renovations obviously could only take place with government tax dollars, since as a private enterprise there’s no way they could make it work? And this relatively small amount of spending in the grand scheme of the tax system helps keep the local arts flourishing?

    Sounds like the tax system is working!

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      25 days ago

      And this relatively small amount of spending

      This money is not provided by the federal government, or even the state. It is paid for by the city of Cologne.

      1.5B€ is quite a burden on the finances of a city. Even if it is a large city. All for the benefit of a small elite, as normal people don’t watch operas.

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        25 days ago

        The cost was spread over several years. And at 25€ a ticket this doesn’t just serve the elite. The building is also a cultural landmark, so preserving it is of social interest, and the money spent went straight back into the local economy, where it was swiftly taxed again.

        These arguments are lazy, find better ones.

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          25 days ago

          And at 25€ a ticket this doesn’t just serve the elite.

          Have you ever seen the people who go into the opera?

          The cost was spread over several years.

          Yes, if you would spread it over 30 years, it would still be €300-400 per ticket.

          Find better excuses for wasting taxpayers money on a handful of peoples entertainment.

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            25 days ago

            Have you ever seen the people who go into the opera?

            When cheap tickets are available: everyone. Artistic expression is human nature, commodification is repression.

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      25 days ago

      That a private enterprise wouldn’t be able to make this work should give us a hint that it doesn’t benefit enough people for it to be worthwhile, opera is a luxury good consumed by relatively few, relatively affluent people. Why should the taxpayer subsidize their hobby? Actors don’t need a billion dollar opera house to perform, they could do it in a school auditorium if necessary. Those tax dollars could have been spent on any number of other things like healthcare and education.

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        25 days ago

        When the tickets are only €25 it’s not just for the rich. The opera house is a cultural landmark, preserving it serves the public. And it was 1.5B spread over several years, not all at once.

        Honestly, the ‘money on art bad’ argument is not a good line here.