• tyler@programming.dev
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    9 months ago

    Agile was designed for contractors to deliver contract work. It’s a terrible design for any sort of sustainable business plan, hence “working software over comprehensive documentation”. That line right there causes the majority of outages you as a consumer encounter.

    • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
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      9 months ago

      Would you rather have working software or a bunch of documentation? If your software is having outages then by definition it is not working. If documentation is the root cause of that then you should fix that by creating enough documentation to allow your software to continue to work per “working software over comprehensive documentation”. Maybe I’m missing something but I don’t see the contradiction here.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        If documentation is the root cause of that then you should fix that by creating enough documentation to allow your software to continue to work

        Or create a better UI that doesn’t require so much documentation.

      • Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        In long term development, sensible and updated documentation is far more important than the software working constantly. You will have downtimes. You will have times before the PoC is ready.

        But if your documentation sucks or is inexistent, you cannot fix any problems that arise and will commit a ton of debt the moment people change and knowledge leaves the company.

      • becausechemistry@lemm.ee
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        9 months ago
        1. Hack together a proof of concept
        2. Works well enough that management slaps a “done” sticker on it
        3. Pile of hacks becomes load bearing
        4. One or two dependencies change, the whole thing falls over
        5. Set evenings and weekends on fire to fix it
        6. Management brags about moving fast and breaking things, engineers quit and become cabbage farmers and woodworkers
        7. New graduates are hired, GOTO 1
    • atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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      9 months ago

      The very first mistake most people make when reading the agile manifesto is that “a over b” means “don’t do b”.

      • prof@infosec.pub
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        9 months ago

        100% that.

        Especially that working software over comprehensive documentation part, which can be automated so easily if done right.

        There’s so much value in TDD and providing a way to do integration and automated UI tests early on in a project, yet none of the companies I’ve worked at made use of it.

        Also automated documentation tools like Swagger are almost criminally underutilised.