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  • symthetics@lemmy.worldtoComics@lemmy.mlCommunism
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    2 months ago

    The downvotes say it all. No one in favour of it here seems able to have an honest discussion.

    If you are genuinely unable to see that any political system, no matter how great in theory, doesn’t translate that simply into reality because of human behaviour, then you’ve got some reading and thinking to do.

    The attitude towards communism here comes across like a cult. Present facts or a reasonable point of discussion, you get shouted down/strawmanned, othered, etc.

    Ironically, the very behaviour that stops things like communism working in reality.





  • Yeah, they’re all the same. Musk, Trump, crypto, religion, AI - they all offer a simple, easy solution to all problems. It’s false hope, but it’s reassuring and we’re all susceptible to it given the chaos of existence.

    Reality is complicated, politics is complicated, running countries is complicated, and no one has all the answers. We have to work on those together. No one person is going to solve all the problems we have, and these cunts absolutely don’t give a fuck about you or me or the ‘working man’.

    It works because it’s such an easy sell and it’s easy to fall for it. I have before too. But being good at battering people and choking them out does not by default translate into being able to run a country (maybe thousands of years ago hah).

    Thats the other aspect to these things. We tend to mistakenly assume that because a person is good at one thing, they’re automatically going to be good at everything. People like Musk and McGregor are also very good at selling this, because they’re generally talking to people who also have a limited understanding of the topic.

    I honestly think if we taught local civics and critical thinking on a global scale you’d massively reduce this kind of problem, but who knows.














  • I think what we can do Nick, is read a bit about how modern ‘AI’, works, so we understand it isn’t capable of ever having anything approaching consciousness in its current state, and not fucking worry about it.

    Kind of like how we don’t worry about people’s race unless your skull is full of pig shit instead of functional neurons.

    (On a side note Alex O’Conner is getting more and more disappointing in his quest for clicks.)

    I guess that’d be standard for such a big brained philosopher though, so no need to point it out. Right?



  • I agree. Lemmy isn’t as progressive as it thinks it is generally. Just like other social platforms, the concept of a nuanced discussion is mostly (not always) an alien one.

    People want things split neatly into ‘good’ and ‘bad’ or ‘us’ and ‘them’ and melt down when anything challenges those neat little boxes. We all do it to some degree, and I get the appeal of it.

    But if we want things to ever really get better, we need to be able to have better discussions about important issues and accept things are very rarely binary.

    Placing Kamala or Walz on some pedestal as if they’re perfect is just as blind as doing so for Trump.

    I’m not in the US, and yes I would vote for Kamala, but I think it’s important to be aware they are not perfect and the fight for a better society/world won’t be over if they win.