So much better, so much of a soul.

This is AI? 😭

How long does it take to sketch this in paint?

The heart thing is not unique to India?

It’s a very common thing to take the heart out by villians everywhere.

And that would be for the Individual Americans to decide, or the institutions.

It wouldn’t have been plundered.

You are assuming that the artifacts such as those held in the British museum solely represent “saving culture” but they also represent the lingering colonial mindset. They weren’t taken away to preserve, they were taken as plunder. LITERALLY.

https://youtu.be/eJPLiT1kCSM

6:40 <- mark, watch the whole thing if you have the time.

Imagine if Nigeria and other african countries invaded your country, forced you into indentured servitude, spread propoganda and took all the art/artifacts to their country and used the excuse that your president is a fascist douche turd and because of that none of you are worthy enough to handle it. You just can’t be trusted with your own art and then never returned it even after things got objectively better.

Of cause keeping it is worse. If the capital is too far away, why would London be better?

Exactly. We agree there then.

Countries are a social construct so instead of focusing on boarders, bring it directly to the cultural heirs.

I think this tricky. Usually, I think the Cultural heritage belongs to the countries from where the artifacts were taken, so that’s where the artifacts should be returned to. Otherwise, How do you decide who to give an artifact to? Most inhabitants of central America share Mayan ancestry, and they no longer follow the maya religion.

I guess it’s a case to case basis. I am sure the rare cases in which there is a dispute it should be left upto the countries or institutions that claim the artifact to arbitrate.

https://youtu.be/eJPLiT1kCSM

I doubt it.

There are 1.4 billion people. I think there’d be a stereotype about them doing black magic if it was an ever prevalent thing.

To be fair to the movie, it isn’t trying to say all Indians worship dark gods. It’s just depicting a cult that happens to be in India.

She has a beautiful smile.

So it’s better to keep it somewhere thousands of kilometres away where they’ll never be able to see it as compared to being able to see it albeit with difficulty?

That’s an internal problem for them to solve, not an excuse to hoard someone else’s culture.

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Those relics belong to dead people.

No, it belongs to a community. Does something stop belonging to a people if the original creators die? No.

That way nobody owns any land, because it belongs to the amoeba.

Returning the artifacts is meant to be a good will gesture, and a sort of a reparation (in lieu of the actual reparations) for all the horrible colonial era crimes that were propagated not more than even 100 years ago.

Many cases

Source: my ass

You will never be able to get everyone to agree on anything and you can’t hold a referendum for every artifact.

So as far as responsibility goes, barring edge cases, it should be left upto the government to decide, as they represent the people.

And tbh, this feels like an argument made in bad faith, because this is such a rare case. No government is going to ask for an artifact back and then destroy it. What happened in afganistan and Syria was a tragedy (they didn’t ask for those artifacts back, they were already there) But that only happened because the previous governments had been destabilized by Russian and American influences. (Iraq war - Isis, Afganistan war - alqaeda)

There’s no clear ‘owner’ in many cases.

Just return it to the country where it was taken from. And I don’t think there are many cases where ownership is vague, most are pretty plain and clear.

then we should prioritize saving the artifacts over the ones that seek to destroy them.

That’s not on you, that’s on their original keepers. Otherwise you are propagating colonial era crimes and justifying them by arguing in bad faith.

P.s.

• Museums have a notorious record when it comes to maintaining artifacts (they aren’t shining beacons of humanity), especially the British museum.
• They also do less than what’s needed to discourage artifact smuggling.
• watch: https://youtu.be/eJPLiT1kCSM

It’s like learning a loved one is sick again.

It’s like working on a nintedo fan game, only announce it once you’re done.

Killing innocent people will help save gay people. Dramatic logic.

How’s that defending Israel? Person is clearly pointing out a problem with Iran. And unless you’re telling me that Iran is a perfect country, this isn’t defending israel.

There was definite political will behind those operations and at least tacit support from the western powers at the time. (But only for those nazis which they felt weren’t useful to them).

I don’t really see the same being possible with any country in the future. If there was any political will to do so, they already would have put pressure on them. And as far as I can tell, there’s very little actual pressure on them.

So this isn’t happening, unless the Palestinians are able to form a government of their own and get support from a major superpower with which their interests align.

Dunno but irradiating area seems like a problem to me as well.