the pampered boot is the pampered boot, no matter the windowdressing it applies

thrice

the worst talos principle dlc

“what if my CEO god-king decides not to follow my plan” is a thesis even the worst startup founders have muddled through and I find it repeatedly funny as fuck that this mediocre monster of a man is hitting it

maybe it’s indicative of other things? maybe he believed so hard in the plan that he misjudged felon’s ability? maybe felon just conned him easily? extremely possible on multiple fronts, and still just as funny

imagine how fucking frustrated the little shitgoblin must be. it makes my angry heart flutter!

if I were to make any predictive guesses about this at all (and I know the possible folly herein): probably the biggest issue with this is that he’ll try use it as a beacon for others (thiel? thiel-shaped people) to put effort behind “correcting the path”

and there’s enough ghouls invested in this to try that a not-insignificant amount

aww, poor baby, he didn’t consider the risk of incentives around an avaricious power-hungry narcissist! whoops! what an utterly embarrassing and predictable mistake to make

(get fucked moldbug)

This is extremely confusing from the outside

understandable! and it’s messy in the weeds, because the loons have been talking about and doing absolutely crazy shit for a long time

And I don’t know where does this Lemmy community fit into all of this.

so, before I answer, I’ll tell you upfront that you’ll probably hate what you learn. that said, see the sidebar for some links and descriptions

the community (techtakes, sneerclub) can be loosely described as a collective of people who’ve, for some reason or another, found themselves caring- /having to care about/encountering/etc one or more of the loons in the subject groups, and then needing a place to vent about it

partly this is because these loons are extremely influential in tech and related spheres, and have been becoming ever more so in recent political pushes in the US. much of yarvin’s thought is directly influencing current US government policy, and all the harms that is causing people. the current stock market bonfire? yeah, these fucking guys.

Sounds good - being rational is obviously a good thing

there’s a difference between “being rational” and capital-R Rationalism (which is what’s involved from yud/lesswrong/etc)

nice reads about rational thought

on paper, that’s the pitch. in practice, it’s cult shit. it’s also self-reinforced for years against any actual expertise - all the fuckers in this scene don’t want to learn from anyone “outside”, and they do an extreme amount of mental gymnastics to justify their various beliefs (which frequently include scientific racism, eugenics, etc)

if you listen to podcasts, Behind The Bastards has featured episodes of (Curtis) Yarvin in the last 2y, as well as another (very recently) on Ziz. all these go into a fair amount of detail about these people. but, again, warning: you will hate what you learn.

think there was a mod note a while ago (@dgerard? I think?) that nsfw was no longer required

same. I’d known quite a depth of detail, but had never gotten as deep as the innards of those quotes from conference conversations

super healthy and normal situations.

let’s not (even in jest)

plausible undeniability

kinda wonder if the pushback about the nyt article contributes to this

“intelligent” people make the best marks, donchaknow

I don’t remember seeing Lesswrongers play with these sorts of ideas

the all-defector in rajaniemi’s books probably sits pretty close?

(I still can’t tell if rajaniemi’s actually really into all this shit, or just found it all to be a highly convenient backstory for some detailed scifi)

there’s been some (what appears to me to be) remarkable progress in the field, in that I know that it’s possible to create intentional structures. it’s very much not my field so I can’t speak to it in detail, I think the best way I could describe where I understand it to be is that it’s like people building with lego, if that makes sense?

but yeah it’s still a damn far way off from what we’d call “gene programming” as we have “computer programming”

a fairly sizable chunk of everything, generally.

I was not aware of this, failed my constitution roll, and have taken psychic damage

even this he has to ruin

the sidebar has a link (the TESCREAL one) which may also be illuminating

as to the rest, yuuuuuup. that’s why sneerclub and techtakes exist.

it’s … hairy

this is a prior attempt by me at giving a (very) concise overview of the “main camp” (for lack of a better term). the zizians are a distinct, specific, extremist offshoot of these.

and I want to make clear that “extremist” there is really, really intense. because 'ole Yud himself has advocated nuking datacenters to “stop the AI”

thiel’s linked in by…many strands. it’s pretty accurate to say that many aren’t known, and only some are. some things that are: these ideas are extremely popular with a lot of the kind of people who work at thiel-funded/thiel-connected companies (palantir, etc etc). there’s also a strong link/correlation between the sort of shit that both thiel/yarvin say, and many of these

don’t feel bad for not getting it from the getgo, nor should you feel bad about not wanting to dive in. much of their shit spans 2~3 decades (even longer when you account for the extropians and longtermists and shit…), so there’s a lot