So supporting terrorist organisations isn’t against australian law? Hamas is designated as a terrorist organisation and advocating for them is therefore banned under australian law.
Hi! I go to pro-Palestine/Lebanon/etc. protests on the weekends here (among other things) and can confirm for you that publicly declaring approval of designated national enemies is not illegal. It would be pretty absurd for a liberal democracy like Australia to do so. Please don’t invent laws to pressure our admins.
Don’t be an ignorant troll, comrade. That’s clearly not what they were talking about.
Yeah, dismal job from the ABC this time. If you want a better account with quotes, there was one shared here.
it seems to just be a constant drama among everyone, is it not?
Correct, it is not. That isn’t close to constant nor everyone.
i want to block the whole instance
See instructions from our admin here: https://aussie.zone/comment/13007067
The thousands of users necessarily affected are far more important than up to five admins being hypocrites and jerks when it comes to specific political topics.
Ultimately I think aussie.zone users should be the most serious consideration, and as admin Nath said, users here who disapprove can easily block their admins or their instance at will.
I can’t find any comments in that linked post ‘talking about blocking that instance’ or ‘moving to different software’. Nor do I think a designated drama community on another instance is a good litmus test for opinions.
The only post I’ve found talking about blocking that instance, apart from OP, is a troll post you made (on a post about the UN voting on the blockade of Cuba which almost the entire UN has consistently voted against every year for over 30 years [wikipedia])
Lemmy is a Fediverse software which is able to federate content with other instances and even other Fediverse softwares (e.g kbin). Federation is what allows an instance (e.g. aussie.zone, the one I’m on) to interact with others (e.g. reddthat.com, lemmy.ml, mander.xyz, etc.), so we can visit their communities, subscribe, post, vote on their posts, comment, and more.
Defederation is removing federation, which in this case would mean aussie.zone can’t interact with lemmy.ml, view their communities and posts, etc… It would occur if the aussie.zone admin sets the site to stop federating with lemmy.ml.
Defederation can be useful if an instance is abusive and systematically federates unwanted content, for example in early days before the reddit API exodus, there was a particular ‘free speech’ instance with a lot of neo-nazis which was defederated by most other instances before it shut down. In another case back then, some troll was registering new accounts every day on any instances without signup questions, so they could evade bans and post shock pornography on lemmy.ml. lemmy.ml ended up defederating from every open instance until they secured their registration form to avoid the abuse. You can see a list of federated and blocked instances by going to an instance and clicking on the Instances button at the bottom of the page. You can see aussie.zone blocks a few dedicated pornography instances, and a few explicitly political instances.
The admins of that instance are pretty blatantly disregarding their own rules in order to push their agenda. If that shouldn’t be grounds for defederation, I don’t know what should.
I personally don’t think staff of a community or instance choosing how they administrate posts there is a solid grounds for defederation, nor do I think defederation is a useful response.
If you find their moderation and staff intolerable (and fwiw I also think some of those bans are poorly justified), I recommend you block those communities or their instance from your account. But I don’t think blocking their users from contributing here and blocking us from contributing there is appropriate.
They make a good point about these being useful in camping and disaster relief situations as portable lightweight power generation. Perhaps they could be effective integrated into window roller blinds, making use of the light we try to shut out.
Perhaps there’s a new market for crystal cases then.
This is straight from a think tank commentary site (their words).
ASPI was established by the Australian Government in 2001 and is partially funded by the Department of Defence
The following copypasted from Wikipedia:
In 2020, Myriam Robin in the Australian Financial Review identified three sources of funding, in addition to the Department of Defence. ASPI receives funding from defence contractors such as Lockheed Martin, BAE Systems, Northrop Grumman, Thales Group and Raytheon Technologies. It also receives funding from technology companies such as Microsoft, Oracle Australia, Telstra, and Google. Finally, it receives funding from foreign governments including Japan, Taiwan and the Netherlands.
For the 2019-2020 financial year, ASPI listed a revenue of $11,412,096.71. The ASPI received from the Australian Department of Defence 35% of its revenue, 32% from federal government agencies, 17% from overseas government agencies, 11% from the private sector, and 3% from the defense industries. Finally, it receives funding from foreign governments including Japan, Israel, Canada, the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.
So it’s important to understand the article with that bias in mind - this is sponsored content.
It’s nice to have access to a compact layout. The in-built Lemmy compact themes are ineffective, as far as I can tell.
Honestly, with news like that the title doesn’t do it justice (as appropriate as it is). I’d pick something more like “Labor Party members revealed as corrupt union gang”, or “ALP loots hundreds of thousands from CFMEU”.
Labor has justified suspending industrial law and union democracy, claiming that the appointed CFMEU administrators are independent and acting in the best interests of union members. However, documents leaked to Jacobin by the “Defend the Unions, Defend the CFMEU” rank and file group directly contradict these claims. According to payroll documents covering the period between August 1 and September 30 this year, the bulk of CFMEU administrators are career Labor Party operatives. Administration started in mid-August, and for roughly one month, they paid themselves over $170,000, taken directly from union coffers.
Did you verify that, or did you just copy paste a machine-generated comment?
afaik, ‘cooker’ has risen as a slang term for the wackier conspiracy theorists:
From Wiktionary:
- (slang, Australia) A person who makes or uses illicit drugs, especially methamphetamine or cannabis.
- (slang, derogatory, Australia) A person who is cooked in the head; a crazy person.
- (slang, derogatory, Australia) A conspiracy theorist, especially one who is involved in politics.
Reminder: no out-of-area (‘absent’) votes in this election.
Council elections may not the be most exciting I find them much more interesting, because while my vote is still statistically negligible, it’s much more powerful than in a state or federal election. So less popular choices have a higher chance of competing.
Unfortunately* it feels like most of my local candidates have almost identical policies, so my second and third preferences might as well be a coin flip. At least I know who’s going last.
Sounds like something out of a futuristic dystopian movie.
I haven’t seen a terrorism act invoked in my state but police have called a few designated areas this year and they bring the cavalry mounted troops to most protests.
I’m calling it now. Somebody’s gonna die or get seriously injured
Big ten-thousands protests generally try to be more big-tent than radical, so as eager as police are to make a show of force against anti-military protesters, my bet is that it will be limited to shoving. But honestly, I won’t be shocked if your call turns out right.
lol - what abuse? He said these things in an earnings presentation, probably to board and investors.
Attempting to (softly) control other peoples’ basic freedom, and their social life while at work, restricting them and alienating them from anything outside the office. The problem isn’t their choice of words, nor that they admitted it to investors.
Maybe the way I’m saying this sounds melodramatic, that I’m jumping to the extreme case and assuming the worst. But those worst cases happen regularly, and these are the warning signs - when the owners want increasing control over workers to extract more profit, to “get the best out of them”. Those employee pain points are social life: the company wants a childcare centre, a restaurant and a gym because “I don’t want them leaving the building.”, “I don’t want them walking down the road for a cup of coffee. We kind of figured out a few years ago how much that costs.” They could have lied and said they did it to improve worker wellbeing and get the best out of them, to reduce the travel-time needed, or any other seemingly innocent reason.
This attitude makes the universal truth clear, a board and investors see their workers as a resource for extracting maximum profit. It has to be that way, that’s how they compete and survive. And it alienates workers.
And I don’t see any evidence anywhere that his people are enduring shit jobs.
I didn’t say they were. I don’t know their conditions. I’m refuting the common attitude that workers are just free to leave when they’re being abused.
outrage reporting
You have a point. They said the quiet part aloud because their audience didn’t need the propaganda bullshit they would have told other people. And so, they admitted an outrageous truth which, well, is pretty normal among businesses. The journalist is taking a quote and shining the headlights on them. But, they are not inventing a fake problem. There’s no ethical justification for saying they don’t want people leaving the building to enjoy a walk and a coffee on their break. Employer exploitation of workers is a real issue in society at large, it deserves attention, and this outrage is an opportunity to give it the attention it deserves.
Yes, they’re two different things. I brought it up because there are plenty of people there too who are openly in defense of Hamas and Hezbollah, even handing out pamphlets in support of them. The only real legal suppression I’m aware of is over people flying Hezbollah flags in the past month (the symbolism you mention).
Which are not particularly relevant to the situation of aussie.zone federating with lemmy.ml. Them writing posts which side with Hamas or Hezbollah isn’t violating those laws.