Post Hog.

Lot of Nazi fans popping in from other instances I guess.

In Marxist terms, the state is a tool of class oppression, it is the machinery by which one class imposes its will on all others. Under capitalism (or rather, under a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (DotB), like e.g. the US, UK, France, Brazil, etc.) it is the bourgeois class who controls the state and uses it to oppress the proletariat (and any remnants of prior classes like the peasantry). In a dictatorship of the proletariat (DotP), that structure is inverted and the proletariat uses the state to oppress the bourgeoisie (and any remnants of say, aristocracy or whatever).

The idea is that in a DotP, the bourgeoisie will eventually become proletarianized and, after a long enough period when there are no more bourgeoisie, there will be no more proletariat (as classes are defined in terms of the conflict between them). Without a class system, there will be no longer any reason for the state - as that tool of class oppression to exist. All that will be left in terms of governance, will be the administration of things. You still need to manage healthcare, housing, transport, etc.

I’m not even sure we have the same intended long-term goal as them tbh. At least, a lot I’ve come across really seem to think ‘stateless’ means no government, no large scale infrastructure, the old ‘someone will make insulin as a hobby’ meme.

So, Eurocommunism is a revisionist tendency started in Italy (lol) in the 70s by the then general secretary of the Communist Party of Italy, Enrico Berlinguer, he was one of many western communists who criticised the Warsaw Pact invasion of Czechoslovakia to put down the ‘Prague Spring’ (along with Ceaçescu) and he subsequently became more and more opposed to the Soviets and promoted the ‘Compromesso Storico’ - a capitulation to right-wing forces in Italy wherein they agreed to support the Christian Democrat minority government. His motivation was seeing Allende be executed by fascists and coming to the insane conclusion that communists could not govern in ‘democractic’ countries without moderating their politics to appease the right.

The Japanese communists are notably Eurocommunist, as are almost all the million different parties in Italy. Even the KKE had a split over this (but it seems their eurocom splinter didn’t last long)

Oh, some more notable things about Berlinguer - he claimed he felt ‘safer’ under NATO’s umbrella than the Soviets’, and when he died, Gorbachev and Zhao Ziyang (China’s Gorbachev) both attended his funeral.

I don’t think you need to be a Hoxhaist (I certainly am not) to agree with them that Eurocommunism is absolutely not communism of any sort and arguably that it is anti-communist in that it abuses communist aesthetics to promote a milquetoast socdem platform that shows almost no differentiation from any other strand of liberalism, just with a red flag and a hamsic.