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@Maggoty @UnderpantsWeevil Melbourne is slowly on it’s journey to banning cars in the CBD. I wish we’d do it with a timeline with less decades in it, but each step towards it is good.

So far 2 of 21 pieces of street have been made car free.

@bstix Elon Musk

@Wrufieotnak @hobovision stock images would have worked fine. Or google earth.

@Olgratin_Magmatoe @kurwa I wouldn’t go that far. Just because every step is wrong, doesn’t make the thought process that weird.

I’m saying we should have compassion for their misunderstanding. The conclusion is wrong, but the path to get there isn’t that hard. Particularly when you’ve been raised in that paradigm (or raised watching media that shows it as the ideal).

@Username @HiddenLayer555 no, the store will just have local customers. And yes there are plenty of those when you can replace the carpark with apartments.

@OsrsNeedsF2P I meant a bigger problem in China

@andrew_s @JackGreenEarth And tags still help things spread further regardless of the federated service they start on.

@Alsephina @Juice Isn’t their bigger problem having too many unfinished apartments? Many more than are needed.

(And are those rates including those who own apartments that will never be completed?)

@jaypatelani @ByteOnBikes why make a worse EV?

@HiddenLayer555 @dessalines There isn’t much lacking in the Japanese network.

@davel comedy mode: one more track, you wont believe how many more people can use just one more track ;)

@davel Air travel is also demanding on:
* Road infrastructure for the airport, trains deliver people closer to where they want in the first place and the connect better to the rest of the PT system.
* Land use. Airports are huge.
* Airports also cost a lot, factoring them into the price of moving people around is important, frequently this is paid for the state.
* Noisy in ways that just can’t be mitigated.

It really isn’t a good option.

@davel @elgordino the viability is: how do we let people move around the country, what is the cheapest way.

This is cheap.

It’s also cheap everywhere else.

And by cheap I mean cheaper than alternatives.

@cm0002 @ByteOnBikes yes, but the idea that EV’s solve things makes people think it is okay to not be all in on PT.

And it’s not okay.

@spankmonkey @PonyOfWar I caught a public bus to high school. To get an extra 20m of sleep I caught the one that didn’t go into the school and stopped on the wrong side of the road 1m before school started. To not be late we’d all walk out across the 4 lane road without looking. Cars will just stop.

After someone was rear ended the stop was removed.

@PhilthyHabits @JackbyDev What’s my point? Australian stadiums are better than the worst examples from the US, but they aren’t fantastic.

@PhilthyHabits @JackbyDev Melbourne’s big stadiums do have substantial car parks, but they are also a short walk from at least 1 central train station with ~10 platforms.

@SuperCub @Elkenders To most the size of an SUV is the point.

@PowerCrazy I think even those examples are more on the less side, they aren’t continuing to grow that way. But they are good places to live because of how close to those ideals they still are.

@dessalines @PowerCrazy No, it really is feasible to have PT close enough to everyone’s house. Some will choose a bike to cut 15m walking into 5m riding, but it isn’t required.

Part of that is that every neighbourhood needs all types of housing. Okay, not every one needs high rise apartments. But medium rise next to the station above the restaurants and retail, surrounded by town houses, surrounded by units, surrounded by 1/3rd acre house blocks

It really isn’t crazy

Utopia needs many changes