Great article, especially the closing paragraph.

Ugh, now all I can afford is “not me” to install them. Not experts that’s for sure.

(this is not a joke, not really).

No, I have a lot of experience in liberal organizations and they are not, despite the memes, closer to conservatism than progressivism. It honestly makes me feel like most people on lemmy have never really worked with liberal groups.

The major differences between a liberal and a social democrat or progressive comes down largely to deciding when a market has failed and when to use government intervention, both Liberals and progressives are fine with intervention, only the threshold changea. We want the same things, mostly, but disagree on how to get them.

Conservatives, philosophical Conservatives anyway, won’t typically even consider such a thing, and often do not even want the same things as Liberals or progressives.

This both sides same stuff just hurts progressive causes, because it sours mushy people with little to no real philosophy on voting for liberal parties. Those people flip flop back to Conservatives when they get angry and we lose the progress we’ve made, as is about to happen in Canada.

I know that conflating Liberals and Conservatives is practically lemmys official pass time, but I have to point out they are not the same.

Conservatives only deal with what’s on the surface so everything past your first sentence will mean nothing to them.

Carrique: Police are getting killed and its the immigrants fault.

Reporter : Can we see the evidence of this?

Carrique:

Security: Sir you’re going to have to leave

I do not understand this describing Trudeau as do nothing. Name a file and it doesn’t take very long to come up with things he has done. New upper tax rate, lower income me tax for everyone else, turning Harper’s tax credits for the rich into direct benefits with progressive payouts to help the poor, 0% Federal student loan interest and very generous repayment timeframes, big investments in the EV transition and home heating, cannabis is legal now, 150 water boil advisories lifted, huge investments in affordable childcare brought regulated child are costs way down, I could go on and on and get more and specific but honestly, people are so worked up they don’t remember any of this or they reply with their pet grievance.

How quickly we as a country forget that these things can be rolled back.

There are articles that list all the times he’s promised something “in two weeks”, it’s a blatent tell that he has no plan at all.

Who knew healthcare could be this hard?

I guess we’ll see.

I agree with almost all of this except the idea only the NDP trying to make things better. The Liberals have done a lot to benefit the working class. We’ve had income tax cuts, the inversion of the regressive child tax credit into the child benefit, and honestly a lot more that I won’t list for fear of turning this into something like a gish gallop.

I think you’re confusing social democracy with democratic socialism. The first is as you say, and has huge overlap with liberalism, left liberalism, and progressive liberalism.

The second is achieving socialism through democratic means, without the need to overthrow government as once was believed to be entirely nessecary.

But then again, terms do change context over time, and by place. So maybe I’m the one who is wrong.

Conservatives have no media literacy and its a global problem.

It’s practically a Canadian tradition to swap out an unpopular party leader as either a sacrifice or a rebrand.

We will be lucky to get away with 4 years. A generation of young men is being swayed conservative in the smoke pits of the internet and I’m worried we’ll suffer a lost decade of governance by bumper sticker weirdos.

I’m hopeful the LPC will maintain confidence through their term with NDP support, in a sense of the formal agreement.

I’d have much preferred to see the agreement last until next year. Finish at least getting the senate bills passed, give Trudeau another year of appointing liberal and, basically, not conservative senators.

He’ll govern like Harper too, like Harper if he grew up on 4chan.

Polinever is still a shit face baby nazi weasel

Yes, and while I am a liberal who generally supports the Liberals in Canada, I absolutely will vote to keep Pierre out of power, whatever that means at the time. I have no real animosity with social democrats.

Yes, they did, and it’s arguable still. Given how many downstream jobs and the lives attached to them would be hurt by a sustained lock out of our dual member rail oligopoly I think binding arbitration is a preferrable option.

Binding arbitration is often opposed by both employers and employees, for different reasons. Amongst employers it’s because Canadian arbitrators don’t take ability to pay / fund into consideration when determining compensation and benefit changes, and so actually favor employees more.