The U.S. will send Ukraine an undisclosed number of medium-range cluster bombs and an array of rockets, artillery and armored vehicles in a military aid package totaling about $375 million, U.S. officials said Tuesday.

Officials expect an announcement on Wednesday, as global leaders meet at the U.N. General Assembly, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy uses his appearance there to shore up support and persuade the U.S. to allow his troops to use long-range weapon s to strike deeper into Russia. The following day, Zelenskyy meets with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris in Washington.

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    My point is that this is not a helping hand but a business for the arms dealers.

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        .ml want Ukraine to surrender. That’s pretry much it.

        They don’t care about the people
        They don’t care about the US taxpayer’s money
        They don’t care that the weapon companies profit

        They just want russia to win.

        “Having a discussion” is just smoke and mirrors with them.

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          Hey if you care so much about the people of Ukraine why don’t you go over there and fight so they don’t have to be kidnapped off the street and forced to die at the front?

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          I don’t care about ML. What I say is that this is NOT HELPING. It’s MAKING A PROFIT on someone in need. Helping would be “I give you the weapons to defend yourself and we will pass the bill to Russia”, not this.

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            I don’t care about ML. What I say is that this is NOT HELPING. It’s MAKING A PROFIT on someone in need. Helping would be “I give you the weapons to defend yourself and we will pass the bill to Russia”, not this.

            hence why we keep giving them massive loans. And sending them old equipment from our military, and sharing intelligence with them, and providing public media support for them as well.

            War is more than just capital my friend.

            “I give you the weapons to defend yourself and we will pass the bill to Russia”, not this.

            also this is literally what europe is looking to do with their stockpile of frozen russian assets.

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          Because… they are? Unless you share Russia’s opinion on the matter.

          Why are you refusing to answer the question?

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            You can’t refuse to answer a question that was never directed at you.

            Unless you share Russia’s opinion on the matter.

            The fact that Ukraine is a proxy state is spoken out loud by American politicians as well.

            Kayfabe is for the kids.

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              The fact that Ukraine is a proxy state is spoken out loud by American politicians as well.

              Please provide evidence for this supposed fact.

              Also, Putin doesn’t call it a proxy state, he calls it the homeland of the Russian people, which is why he’s trying to make it part of Russia.

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                Please provide evidence for this supposed fact.

                https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosiegray/top-us-diplomat-fuck-the-eu

                Here’s an article that you’ve already had linked to you a thousand times you may hopefully incorporate into your worldview a decade later. The scandal here is that the US is hand picking their preferred puppet leader instead of letting the EU have a say.

                Also, Putin doesn’t call it a proxy state

                He did in his speech explaining why Russia invaded that I’m absolutely not shocked that you haven’t read or listened to.

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                  That’s an article from 2014. You might have missed a couple of administrations. Would you like to go back further? What did Eisenhower’s top diplomat have to say about things?

                  And Putin also said it was the homeland of the Russian people, and I’m absolutely not shocked that you’re not acknowledging that.

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                    To assert the premise that Ukraine is a US puppet I linked you a news article about US diplomats hand picking their leader and you say it’s disqualified because it’s an article from when it happened.

                    You’re just a profoundly unserious person.

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      lil bro on the internet discovers that in a globalist capitalist world, that even military conflicts are burdened by the concepts of capital itself.

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        Then they shouldn’t sell it as “help”. If you help, you help. If you sell, you sell.

        Edit: and I know the World is mostly a shitty place but that doesn’t make me less angry.

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          yeah and we aren’t selling them weapons, we’re giving them money to buy weapons. Instead of just, giving them weapons they probably don’t want/need.

          We are donating a lot of weapons globally, but universally money is still required, and money can buy weapons so…

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      Most enlightened tankie. I guess Ukrainians should use rocks, or jedi powers to defend against the orcs?