It’s already 10-15 degrees above normal here consistantly. We’re screwed regardless.
But we signed a lot of environmental treaties that no one ever intended to keep their promises on. So yay, us!
I don’t think hyperbole like damage lasting for millenia is worth much. People don’t think in such terms and the only people who will listen to that are those who are already on the side of climate action.
The articles call to arms is right, but this is not the way to beat trump. Instead of damage for millenia, the focus needs to be on convincing people that his short termist policies will damage then financially and personally.
Instead of cheap renewable electricity he wants to use voters tax money to subsidies and promote fossil fuels. Instead of clean cars in cities and towns, he wants to choke you and your children with petrol fumes.
An image of trump in a jacket covered in fossil fuel company sponsorship logos, and trying to force an exhaust pipe down a child’s throat is the kind of thing that summarises his position. We’re not trying to convince die hard republicans, just the moderate centre / undecideds that trump will harm them and their children directly with his policies, let alone millenia of damage.
Whether Trump or Harris wins, the US military is still the single largest institutional emitter of greenhouse gases in the world.
Will global warming be accelerated under Trump? Yeah, probably, but the problem is here and now. Without addressing the US military complex emissions and billionaires taking space walks, the speed is a relatively moot point.
I agree. Fear mongering is a huge turn off. It’s weak, low effort, and for me, incites a sense of rebellion. There’s already sooo much low hanging fruit ripe for relation to just about anyone, why stoop to fear tactics? Let the rotten fruit lie on the ground.
I really don’t know it would get “far, far worse” that the way we are currently heading to. I just think he may get us there faster
There is still a chance to keep things somewhat under control. But with Trump it will be a lot harder.
I would really like to just be able to ignore the shitshow of US elections the world is subjected to every four years. But unfortunately the consequences are potentially huge for anyone living in this planet. And we haven’t even lived down George Dubya yet.
Friend, most of us in the States don’t want to hear about it.
It’s hard to imagine being someone who doesn’t know this
I keep getting this feeling that Trump is a symptom of self-loathing, on a large scale.
The people who vote for him don’t actually care to make the world a better place, they don’t care about the destructive policies that will come from his administration, they don’t even really care what Trump actually does. It’s more that they feel an unconscious emotional kinship with a man who hates himself so much that he has to spend every waking moment getting other people to tell him how great he is.
I think there’s a few core reasons
Some people would act like him if given the opportunity, so they identify with him or think he’d give them opportunities
Some people just feel isolated and know the world is getting worse but not why, so they latch onto the guy giving easy answers and simple solutions
And some people are just drawn to the idea of fascism or authoritarianism, even if they don’t realize what that entails
I’d put the self loathing in the first camp - many of them get through life through projection. They think everyone is like them
There’s definitely a mental illness or two in there somewhere.
