• Lauchs@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    This is mind bogglingly dumb. You should hear what trump et al are talking about re: Israel.

    This both sides nonsense is childish at best and demonstrates an utter lack of understanding or perhaps willfull ignorance.

    Or, given your absurd postinf history, a group of folks as part of a larger operation to sow distrust in democratic institutions etc. The dumber stuff I see from you the more I lean to the latter.

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        2 months ago

        How about his repeated claims that Jewish folks who vote Democrat hate Israel/themselves?

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          2 months ago

          Alternatively, one could disengage from the electoral system and instead focus actions history has proven effective.

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            2 months ago

            Lol, which wars fought by a democracy are you thinking have been ended by non democratic means?

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              The New Deal, the Civil Rights Act, Women’s Lib, cessation of hostility in Vietnam, the Clean Water Act, the ADA, Lol.

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                Ummm, all of those came about via democracy?

                Edit: Also, most of those weren’t wars…

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                    Are you maybe meaning to comment on another thread or something? Right now it looks like you’re trying to claim that “The New Deal, the Civil Rights Act, Women’s Lib, cessation of hostility in Vietnam, the Clean Water Act, the ADA” all of which (except maybe arguably Vietnam) were things passed by popular demand by a democratically elected government…

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              The failed invasions and colonizations of Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc. were ended through brutal defeat despite decades of “democratic” support.

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                The post to which I was responding was:

                Alternatively, one could disengage from the electoral system and instead focus on actions history has proven effective.

                So, going by you Mr answer, are you suggesting the appropriate non electoral response is to go fight in Gaza?

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          Given Trump’s full support of genocide, I would say voting for him would be choosing genocide and not “minimizing”.

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        Minimizing genocide, albeit in the classical sense of the word which is to reduce the amount of. This should be an inarguably good thing so voting for the less genocide party doesn’t seem complicated.

        Now admittedly, if all the kids and keyboard warriors had been so staunchly opposed to US foreign policy, showing up to the Democratic primary would’ve been the move. Unfortunately, elder voters crush the youth despite being a smaller portion of the population so, unsurprisingly, American policy tends to reflect their views.

        But hey, bitching on the internet is surely almost as good as voting in the primaries, right? Wait…

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          The younger adults showed up to a primary and won it. But, unfortunately, the SCOTUS ruled that private organizations can nominate whonever the fuck they want regardless of the outcome of the vote. Those adults don’t vote anymore. It’s certainly their fault.

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            Uhhh, which primary are you thinking of? I could be wrong but I’d be stunned if the 25 and under crowd outvoted the over 65 in any primary in the last quarter century.

            And is the SCOTUS ruling you’re confused about Citizen’s United?

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              You moved the goal post then assumed I was an idiot. This was a time when you probably should’ve asked one good question. If you do so now perhaps another user will answer.

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                What? Which goal posts did I move? You can feel free to use whatever goalposts just give me the primary you’re thinking of and the age range you’re including.

                Also still waiting on whatever wild SCOTUS ruling you’re thinking of.