• Sibbo@sopuli.xyz
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    Is this some contemporary soviet propaganda? I mean all the people who died for political reasons or because the state economy was mismanaged probably don’t care much about these achievements.

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      I’m sure homeless people and victims of the opioid crisis in the US also don’t care about US achievements in for example the olympics but people still talk about them.

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        No wonder then that 90% of the Soviet population voted to stay in the Union, but of course that didn’t stop its overthrow because capitalists had already taken it over by then.

        A poll in 2009

        As time passes though, the capitalist propaganda that kids in these places grow up with will probably start to outweigh the lived experiences of worsened living conditions after capitalists overthrew the USSR that their parents.

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        Funny you focus on whatever this is and conveniently ignore the millions murdered by the state.

        I’m here because my family escaped that shit.

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          Mine too, it’s hard to call the dissolution of USSR illegal when it was initiated by people escaping Soviet bloc countries in droves.

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          Exactly. This is probably a moron who read about USSR on facebook. Those were horrible times full of oppression and corruption. I was raised in one of the sattelite countries and no. Those were bad very bad times unless you were a child of a small corrupted russian boot licker.

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          Funny you focus on whatever this is

          Is it a bad thing to highlight that wealth disparity dramatically shrank in the USSR and dramatically increased in the Russian Federation?

          and conveniently ignore the millions murdered by the state.

          Are you referring to Nazi sympathizers, the Tsarist White Army, or Capitalist insurgents?

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              What “other tens of millions?” Where are you getting those numbers, the Black Book of Communism, which was debunked by its own writers?

              Must be easy to be a right-winger, you can conjure numbers out of thin-air and positions on vibes, rather than actually look at history in any capacity.

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                I don’t know what that crap is, nor do I care. It could be debunked, bunked, or just plain bunk, don’t give a shit.

                Have you drank enough of the Kool aid that you think millions didn’t die in state-sponsored faminesand ethnic cleansings under the soviet’s?

                Don’t answer that, I can see the answer is yes from your other comments in this thread.

                All the weird nonsense you and your comrades have come up with to explain why a failed system collapsed is kinda funny all things considered, but not in a haha sorta way, because your all serious. To the point where your calling the millions of innocents slaughtered “Nazis” or “capitalist insurgents”, and taking about spaceflight success (which came from Nazi scientists) while the common people starved.

                Remember when Yeltsin visited a grocery store in Houston and realized the whole system was dog water? No, your cognitive dissonance doesn’t let.

                “When I saw those shelves crammed with hundreds, thousands of cans, cartons and goods of every possible sort, for the first time I felt quite frankly sick with despair for the Soviet people, … That such a potentially super-rich country as ours has been brought to a state of such poverty! It is terrible to think of it.”

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                  Doesn’t seem like you care about any facts of history, lol, to the point where you call Nazis “innocents” and pretend the USSR had famines during the Space Race.

                  Read Blackshirts and Reds. Or, don’t, just remain a clueless right-winger rewriting history as the US Empire crumbles around you.