• алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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    There is a distinct difference between progressive and reactionary violence

    The rule of “law and order” takes constant systemic violence to upkeep, to protect the ruling class, their private (not personal!) property and interests.

    This violence of the ruling classes is normalised, even legalized/codified in law. Standing up against it, however, and enacting systemic change is branded by their lackeys as “terrorism” or “violent chaos”.

    Class struggle is a constant fight of one class to oppress another. Currently in most of the world, the exploiters oppress the exploited. For society to progress, the exploited must suppress the exploiters.
    (Or for the expropriators to be expropriated as Marx put it. But that’s just the same in fancy)

    After all

    One person’s terrorist is another one’s partisan

    Mao put it quite well, which is why all following quotes are from him
    (btw ysjk: quoting someone on a specific issues doesn’t mean doesn’t mean supporting their views in general/every other aspect)

    “War is the continuation of politics.” In this sense, war is politics and war itself is a political action; since ancient times there has never been a war that did not have a political character… However, war has its own particular characteristics and in this sense, it cannot be equated with politics in general. “War is the continuation of politics by other . . . means.” When politics develops to a certain stage beyond which it cannot proceed by the usual means, war breaks out to sweep the obstacles from the way… When the obstacle is removed and our political aim attained the war will stop. Nevertheless, if the obstacle is not completely swept away, the war will have to continue until the aim is fully accomplished… It can therefore be said that politics is war without bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed. - “On Protracted War” (May 1938), Selected Works, Vol. II, pp. 152-53 *

    Revolutions and revolutionary wars are inevitable in class society, and without them it is impossible to accomplish any leap in social development and to overthrow the reactionary ruling classes and therefore impossible for the people to win political power. - “On Contradiction” (August1937), Selected Works, Vol. I, p. 344.*

    War is the highest form of struggle for resolving contradictions, when they have developed to a certain stage, between classes, nations, states, or political groups, and it has existed ever since the emergence of private property and of classes. - “Problems of Strategy in China’s Revolutionary War” (December 1936), Selected Works, Vol. I, p. 180.

    This is why only after the abolition of classes, private property and states (ie. communism), will the contradictions which are the root cause of virtually all large scale violence, be resolved.

    Which in turn is why:

    We are advocates of the abolition of war, we do not want war; but war can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun. - “Problems of War and Strategy” (November 6, 1938), Selected Works, Vol. II, p. 225.

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          2 months ago

          It means they’re too lazy and uninformed to respond. They’d rather attack you with argument counterpoints manufactured by the right wing, as opposed to using their brain and digging deeper into the “why” behind something.

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            I love being tagged as right wing because I don’t support your round about ways to justify hurting and attacking people. Your violence and justification isn’t worth my time the same way I’d give a fuck you response to arguing violence was needed Jan 6th.

            You want violence and to ignore the will of the general public. Your justification of it deservers the👌👍.

            You are a violent deplorable asshole if you try to justify violence to circumvent the political process.

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            2 months ago

            You peddled a right wing argument talking point. Nobody likes violence but sometimes it becomes inevitable. History shows it. When we’re all reduced to renting forever and essentially being serfs to corporate America, do you think voting is going to solve all of our problems? The ruling class will never allow you to vote away their power.

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              2 months ago

              2/3rds of American own their own home. Home purchasing rates are up for Gen z compared to millennials

              Try again to justify your violence but use actual data.

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                2 months ago

                I don’t need to justify anything. History has already shown us how this will go, even if it’s a slow, arduous process.

                Keep trying to paint “the left” with sweeping generalizations as violence lovers while claiming not to be right wing.

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                  2 months ago

                  You’re correct, it’s not the entire left. I should have said tankies and got real specific with it.

                  Great job ignoring the actual facts and reality though.