This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.
We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.
If you’re here it’s because you’re aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not “just asking questions”.
If your response to that is, “yes, but…” then this isn’t the instance for you, and by extension, this isn’t the community for you.
tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.
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Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to “unambiguous support”, as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.
I don’t subscribe to this community but I found your post in the top of my feed. And want people to know, you have my support. I think it’s awesome that you’re able to build this community.
I’m not going to be aggressive in any online discussion but I am very sensitive to the situation. My brother was a gay man who had lots of difficulties and ultimately took his own life. I will always wonder if society was different, if he’d still be here.
So I will never shy away in real life. I promised the memories of my brother to always be that change that is needed. I will be that cis dude who takes the time to try and change people who show me their bigotry.
I know people in real life who have transitioned. It’s a very difficult process and anyone who feels that they need it, they should have access to it. The look of being comfortable in one’s own skin afterwards is absolutely observable. I can only do what I can do but you will always have an ally in me.
Somewhat relevantly, I’ve long since wondered what even is the use of a patriarchy if men still can’t wear skirts and nail polish.
Not on your instance but it’s so good to see unequivocal inclusion and support for the trans community. There should be no room for bigotry of any kind.
Hi! Trans person here. Your heart is in the right place, but this post is poorly written. You haven’t even given examples of how this is currently/could be applied. Some people are just that uneducated about trans people. If they’re leading questions that invalidate us, sure. But otherwise what’s the harm? For 196 there’s no reason to ask about that stuff but the whole instance?? Your call in the end but I can think of a few ways this could go bad just from prior experience in other communities.
Thank you, based mod
Ohhhh you are that crazy person that loves to censor the shit out of anyone who dares speak out against your insanity
She doesn’t like to, she does it because queer people are constantly being attacked and berated and then when we get tired of the shit, people get surprised and go, “oh why are you being so defensive, you’re overly reactive”. And she isn’t insane, she’s proud, protective, and proactive with a very low tolerance for any indication of more bullshit.
Personally, I would discuss certain events more fully, try to educate and understand, but, for better or for worse, the person with responsibility for the instance and everybody in it decided less chances rather than more and doesn’t give a flying fuck what anybody thinks, and the more you press her, the more she’s gonna tyrant all over you, and, honestly, most of the users here have her back because she’s got ours.
Just… Be better to people, let others walk away from you if they want without YOU being a crazy person and being sensitive, reactive, and lashing out unnecessarily. You ever think about that perspective? You don’t have to say anything, just move along and leave us in peace. Maybe once everything cools down in the future, she’ll renegotiate and reanalyze and possibly consider reconnecting. Y’all can defed from us crazy folk if you want at that time. You’re free to walk away too.
Brother, that’s not how we talk to people. Everyone here is treated like people and respected for their personhood. This isn’t a theatre for bigoted nonsense - there’s other platforms available if you want to attack people and get that out of your system.
Show people respect or leave people alone - but don’t be like that.
Aggressive support given!
WHATS THAT SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU IM CRANKING THE HOG RIGHT NOW TRANSPHOBES GTFO (DISRESPECTFULLY) 🏳️⚧️
Every single transphobe right now:
Literally right below this.
Not from this instance and not a contributor to this community, but just wanna say great job.
Protecting the ideals of your instance is definitely a worthy goal, and I definitely include trans people in the category of people who get shit on undeservedly from on high and deserve way better.
HELL YEAH 💖
Can you see my reply? I’m on lemmy.world and I thought it was still defederated from Beehaw so I shouldn’t be able to see your comment O_o(I’m used to being more active on my beehaw account so using my lemmy.world account threw me off, disregard this lol)P.S. Yay trans rights and having a pro-trans meme space 😄
Being defederated just means you can’t see new posts on beehaw communities and they can’t see your communities at all. If your instance and beehaw are both federated with a third instance, like the one this community is on, then you’ll still be able to see comments by beehaw users on that instance.
Let me just make sure I got this right
Dee is on lemmy.world
Zoop is on beehaw
This thread is on lemmy.blahaj.zone
So Dee and Zoop can see each other’s comments since neither lemmy.world nor beehaw is defederated from blahaj.zone?
It’s like a border state or something
Accorded neutral ground
Trans people are cool. Love em. Full human rights for everyone, end discrimination. This post, though, is obnoxious though.
Sending edicts out to the public is never the play. Use your sidebar. Moderate stuff. Make it cool to not be a bigot. But the second you start doing goofy shit like this, you’re painting a target on your back and coming across way more fragile than you must actually be.
I personally have a policy about blocking any community that has admins who feel it necessary to try to police people’s thoughts. As much as bigots piss me off, this isn’t how people conduct themselves in a place that purports to be a safe haven. You don’t patronize and denigrate the general public out of frustration, unless you want them as an enemy for some reason. The idea you needed you adjust your terminology in retrospect confirms how poorly you wrote your initial message.
Also, I have to say, “We allowed 196 to be here” is a curious statement. What exactly did you allow? Is opening a community a big endeavor? I’ve opened up a bunch, and never have I felt like I was owed someone for doing it.
Ban bad behavior. Don’t try to tell people how to think. We have a word for the latter and it’s not pretty.
They’re not telling anyone “how to think”. They’re telling transphobes and “trans sceptics” to fuck off. And who cares if they do it with a pinned post rather than a sidebar announcement? Some apps hide the sidebar in a menu.
Also when you say you opened a bunch of communities, do you mean you hosted them? Because those two women are literally running the server this instance is running on. Doesn’t sound all that easy to me.
Thank god. Reddit and Twitter were ruined by the transphobic and Nazis. Glad that isn’t tolerated here.
Trans women are women. Girldick is best dick.
Know that you are loved. ^And also sexually objectified. Sorry bout that… ^
-Sincerely a cis lesbian.
Can you explain the girldick thing? I’m a transman and that comes off as one of the many things that are low key alienating in expressions of support, but it’s possible I’m just mistaken.
I’m not the person you were seeking clarification from but I took her comment to mean that she is a cis woman that’s sexually attracted to women, but also enjoys P.I.V. sex. Therfore she would be happy to discover that a woman she is attracted to has a penis.
That’s just my interpretation though.
How far removed from the instigating post is that? It doesn’t seem all that different if we’re immediately diving into fuckables and unfuckables.
I think you’re saying I didn’t help you understand her position, fair enough.
I mean this post is a place to voice support for the trans community and she said she likes having lesbian sex with trans women. I don’t think the statement was meant to support trans men, just trans women. Trans women tend to be the focus of a lot of the conversation. I think trans men and trans women have different experiences with transphobia and need different supports. If you’d like to talk about your feelings I’d be interested to learn.
But also, she’s a lesbian so again it’s not too surprising that she would center women in her comment.
I’m a cis het man that wants to support you. It occurs to me that the less time men spend thinking and talking about lesbian sex, the better adjusted they are. So I’m going to excuse myself from this conversation. Good luck out there man. I’m pulling for ya.
The original reference (which triggered the OP to post) is a cis man saying he wouldn’t sleep with a pre op trans woman.
He said something along the lines that girldick is disgusting, I’m saying it’s hot.
If that’s problematic I can delete (not sure how that works on lemmy though). I would rather hear it from a trans woman though. If you want to discuss, go for it.
I get the sentiment but damn are the trans memes painfully unfunny. Y’all gotta get better at making memes or this instance is gonna remain mid.
k bye
Just wondering what does 196 means anyway? Clueless lemmy user here.
Ps I’m ally of LGBTQ2S+.
Back on Reddit some dude and his roomates made a subreddit called r/195 (their dorm number). It only had one rule, when you visit, you have to post a meme. Eventually the public found the subreddit and started posting their own memes. It got huge and out of hand and some awful stuff started getting posted so they finally deleted the subreddit. That disappointed a bunch of people so a sequel was made, r/196. This community is a recreation of that second subreddit.
This should be in the sidebar so the lore isn’t lost.
