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I do admire your enthusiasm for protecting China against defamation, but there is a difference between useful support and going too far.
I am willing to admit that I am wrong, however. There are mentions of a 64 Tiananmen incident on Baidu, but nothing that specifically focuses on the event. I would like you to point me to search strings on Baidu that clearly focuses on and presents an official line on the Tiananmen demonstrations that ended on June 4th, 1989.
Screenshot it if you can find results on Baidu. I see some ancillary results discussing how production etc was disrupted by 6-4, but nothing discussing the incident itself, although I still need to go through the State Council logs.
Basically, in parts of the left-wing community, there’s a tendency to overidolize China, when China itself admits that Mao was 30% wrong, and considers itself a developing country that is still searching for solutions.
The problem is, if you become completely divorced from reality, you impede your capability for praxis, and set yourself up for disappointment and alienation from the movement (“they lied to me!”) if you step foot here and stay for extended periods of time.
I’d consider unsustainable “ultra” beliefs wrecker behavior by hostile forces, when there is already a lot to admire in China, just as there are things to reasonably gripe about.
oh is that why it’s easily findable on Baidu? western chauvinist garbage
The Tian’anmen Square ‘Massacre’: The West’s Most Persuasive, Most Pervasive Lie | Mango Press
Another View of Tiananmen | Red Sails
I’m in China, and please enter the search query that produces results on the Tiananmen Incident of 1989.
天安门事件 links me to the peaceful protests of 1976. I guess I can search Baike, but this is not a subject for common discussion.
wapbaike.baidu.com/search/none?word=六四&pn=0&rn=10
I do admire your enthusiasm for protecting China against defamation, but there is a difference between useful support and going too far.
I am willing to admit that I am wrong, however. There are mentions of a 64 Tiananmen incident on Baidu, but nothing that specifically focuses on the event. I would like you to point me to search strings on Baidu that clearly focuses on and presents an official line on the Tiananmen demonstrations that ended on June 4th, 1989.
Jake Sullivan is in China too, I wouldn’t take his fucking word for anything
Screenshot it if you can find results on Baidu. I see some ancillary results discussing how production etc was disrupted by 6-4, but nothing discussing the incident itself, although I still need to go through the State Council logs.
Basically, in parts of the left-wing community, there’s a tendency to overidolize China, when China itself admits that Mao was 30% wrong, and considers itself a developing country that is still searching for solutions.
The problem is, if you become completely divorced from reality, you impede your capability for praxis, and set yourself up for disappointment and alienation from the movement (“they lied to me!”) if you step foot here and stay for extended periods of time.
I’d consider unsustainable “ultra” beliefs wrecker behavior by hostile forces, when there is already a lot to admire in China, just as there are things to reasonably gripe about.
https://www.gov.cn/zwgk/2011-11/09/content_1989024.htm it’s report number 590.
Yeah, looks like a bunch of State Council publications dating to 1989 around the time of the incident.
实事求是?
If you had guidance from the Foreign Ministry on the topic, it’d be better. I’ll go over it tomorrow, it’s late.
Thanks for the link!