This comment was in response to someone expressing regret about joining .ml if I recall correctly

Edit: I’m convinced all this guy does is camp out in front of his computer and wait for an excuse to abuse what itty bitty power he has.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
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    2 months ago

    Quick question - if Native Americans killed 1 out of every 50 US citizens in an attempt to drive them off of Native ancestral land, would this be:

    A. Ethnic cleansing

    OR

    B. Not ethnic cleansing

    ?

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          2 months ago

          Great, so we agree. White people committed a genocide against the Indians when they conquered the Americas, just like Muslims committed a genocide against the Jews when they conquered the Middle East.

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            2 months ago

            Accepting that premise for the sake of the argument, since the history of the region’s disruption of the Jewish population predates Islam, so does that genocide justify another genocide some hundreds of years later?

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                2 months ago

                It doesn’t.

                Okay, so far you’re in agreement, then, that contrary to your initial claim, ethnic cleansing is NOT an acceptable response, you just disagree as to whether ethnic cleansing is ongoing. Is that correct?

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                  2 months ago

                  Hamas is the one ethnically cleansing. The IDF isn’t. Remember, Hamas has been very explicit about wanting to kill every single Jew. It’s even in their charter. The IDF meanwhile does not want more Jews to die.

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                    2 months ago

                    Okay, so far you’re in agreement, then, that contrary to your initial claim, ethnic cleansing is NOT an acceptable response, you just disagree as to whether ethnic cleansing is ongoing. Is that correct?

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                  2 months ago

                  I think there are some good arguments about what counts as an ethnic cleansing when the population is entirely homogenous.

                  Is what Russia doing to the Ukraine an ethnic cleansing, considering their lack of diversity? What about the lack of diversity in Gaza? Turns into a semantic argument, really.

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                    2 months ago

                    Not sure I understand. Wouldn’t a clear ethnic majority in an area being removed to make way for a minority only make ethnic cleansing more apparent than the reverse?

                    Is what Russia doing to the Ukraine an ethnic cleansing, considering their lack of diversity?

                    Yes, absolutely.

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              2 months ago

              Thats just not true and that argument speaks volumes about the little knowledge you seem to have about the area.

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                2 months ago

                Holy fucking shit dude, if you aren’t aware that the Jewish diaspora significantly pre-dates Islam and that there was no longer a Jewish majority in the region by the 7th century AD, I can’t fucking help you.