The thing is, in the world we live in it is possible to achieve this without it becoming a work burden, or a worker oppressive machine.
Once the US Supreme Court ruled that companies no longer have any obligations to thier customers, themselves, the environment etc. and only hold fudiciary responsibilities to the shareholders (profit) above all else- that the system reached its final stage that has been grinding down everything.
I see a huge amount of meme postings and negative postings/comments about it, but very, very little posts on how to change the system we live in (the west) besides “burn it all to the ground”…which, frankly, is a shit idea, because we are all in this boat and I’d rather see us all succeed than fail.
No, but the majority of the “you’re not left enough” crowd disingenuously keeps bringing it up as the only solution, and don’t offer any positive or applicable alternatives.
Thats because it is the only solution, and the “you’re not left enough crowd” understands it is the only solution.
Maybe read Capital volumes 1-3 and then tell me you think “socialism or barbarism” isn’t an objectively(or as close to objective as one can be) correct take.
My friends, I am not saying the system is the best one, I am saying we need to come together and figure out how to make positive changes whole living in it, not wreck the joint Because our children have enough shit to deal with for thier future.
Well, the first thing to be done in USA is to stop dis BS two party system. It is still better than only one, sure, but a working democracy should give more options and tools to make each individual’s opinion respected.
After that something like an initiative is needed so that a the people can commit changes to the constitution by winning a majority vote in the majority of states and one that counts for all states (changes to constitution have to win both majority votes)
Ranked choice voting, actual majority rules, end filibuster, term limits and make sure no one member of any body should be able to throw a wrench into the works.
I’m not American, but have similar struggles. Is this the kind of thing we can push locally then hope to expand out, or does it really have to come from the top down?
Actually you all probably have more local power than a lot of countries, so lots of opportunity to land and expand
If it was me, I would start locally and keep expanding upward. There are some examples already in the US that I’ve seen, where the vitriol is out of campaign because it’s just not feasible when there’s more than 2 dogs in the race.
Bananas are strong together. Anarchist are working toward prefiguration. That is building a future with “no rule” inside current systems. We have to live within the current system, but we can build a better one. Working together maybe we can build a better boat.
The thing is, in the world we live in it is possible to achieve this without it becoming a work burden, or a worker oppressive machine.
Once the US Supreme Court ruled that companies no longer have any obligations to thier customers, themselves, the environment etc. and only hold fudiciary responsibilities to the shareholders (profit) above all else- that the system reached its final stage that has been grinding down everything.
I see a huge amount of meme postings and negative postings/comments about it, but very, very little posts on how to change the system we live in (the west) besides “burn it all to the ground”…which, frankly, is a shit idea, because we are all in this boat and I’d rather see us all succeed than fail.
But then again what do I know? I’m just a banana.
Do you think changing economic systems is equivalent to setting it all on fire?
No, but the majority of the “you’re not left enough” crowd disingenuously keeps bringing it up as the only solution, and don’t offer any positive or applicable alternatives.
Thats because it is the only solution, and the “you’re not left enough crowd” understands it is the only solution.
Maybe read Capital volumes 1-3 and then tell me you think “socialism or barbarism” isn’t an objectively(or as close to objective as one can be) correct take.
My friends, I am not saying the system is the best one, I am saying we need to come together and figure out how to make positive changes whole living in it, not wreck the joint Because our children have enough shit to deal with for thier future.
Reforming the system is a dead end, we have to replace if with socialism for the sake of our children.
I don’t buy that and I think we’re better than that
Okay, well, you’re wrong, capitalism is a mathematically unsustainable system.
Philosophically you are right.
Practically, unless you’re working to make changes, and I mean real changes, then all you’re doing is making memes and trolling.
Well, the first thing to be done in USA is to stop dis BS two party system. It is still better than only one, sure, but a working democracy should give more options and tools to make each individual’s opinion respected.
After that something like an initiative is needed so that a the people can commit changes to the constitution by winning a majority vote in the majority of states and one that counts for all states (changes to constitution have to win both majority votes)
Ranked choice voting, actual majority rules, end filibuster, term limits and make sure no one member of any body should be able to throw a wrench into the works.
I’m not American, but have similar struggles. Is this the kind of thing we can push locally then hope to expand out, or does it really have to come from the top down?
Actually you all probably have more local power than a lot of countries, so lots of opportunity to land and expand
I am, but am able to live outside the US.
If it was me, I would start locally and keep expanding upward. There are some examples already in the US that I’ve seen, where the vitriol is out of campaign because it’s just not feasible when there’s more than 2 dogs in the race.
I personally prefer to start locally and expand upwards. Especially here in switzerland where we value the right to have local laws very highly 😇
❤️exactly!
Bananas are strong together. Anarchist are working toward prefiguration. That is building a future with “no rule” inside current systems. We have to live within the current system, but we can build a better one. Working together maybe we can build a better boat.