I’m using EndeavourOS with KDE.
The display is correctly oriented when logged in but it doesn’t rotate correctly when I’m logged out.
EDIT: corrected the post. This happens when logged out, locking the screen has it displayed correctly.
I’m using EndeavourOS with KDE.
The display is correctly oriented when logged in but it doesn’t rotate correctly when I’m logged out.
EDIT: corrected the post. This happens when logged out, locking the screen has it displayed correctly.
This sort of passive-aggressive “help” feels like a relic of the early 2010s we could do without.
This type of answer wouldn’t exist if people typed the question into google instead of reddit/lemmy/forums/etc…
My goodness, people complain that this place lacks content. A person as for help which creates content for the site and you come to bash on them?
Come kiddo! You can do better.
This post will not contain anything useful because the problem was never coherently defined and the follow ups from OP are minimal to none. Like most posts here, it will be left in limbo with no clear idea of what was tried or what didn’t work. It will be a useless web result hit for many people.
It’s really odd. I’m not seeing anyone say questions shouldn’t be asked. Yet that’s how most of the comments have interpreted it.
The problem is quality. We know there’s a good way to do this. One that will help people in the future and quickly assists OP today. While I agree the approach could be reworked, they are not wrong.
When you search for a problem like this one, often the results with helpful answers are on forums. These wouldn’t exist if no one ever asked their question on a forum.
To put it another way, google doesn’t create any content. That’s what we’re here to do instaed.
I have no problem with questions on forums, sometimes I ask them myself, but I think that if you expect people to try to answer your question, people should be able to expect you to have tried looking for an answer yourself.
I don’t know about other people, but it’s way easier to google something than to ask a question and then wait for the answer. I’m not OP, but if I’ve asked a question, it’s only because I’ve exhausted my ability to find the answer on its own.
Why though? Seriously, why is it a problem for you if they ask here first, instead of asking somewhere else first? What is the actual harm to you?
Some people would rather interact with other humans. Some prefer to find their answers without interacting with other humans. It’s all good.
Sometimes people like community conversation; it often gets to the heart of the issue better than parsing a semi-related post from 12 years ago, and it allows back-and-forth discussion to get details and drill down issues.
On top of that, redundancy for technical issues is never something we should reject.
Yup, and it might be necessary to reproduce a lot of the answers that people used to find on reddit.
That’s such an incredibly shallow thought. No one is arguing you can’t ask questions. The complaint has always been about how to ask a question. How to ask a good question.
If someone has done a little research and explained in their post at least ONE step or attempt they tried and reach out of help, then most people will not have a problem with it. That’s how we end up with answers that can be found on search engines.
What is the harm, to you or anyone else, when someone makes a forum their first resort, instead of last? If having people ask questions here that aren’t “good questions” according to you is bothering you, perhaps you are the problem.
Sure, let’s keep criticizing anyone who points out to new users how to empower themselves. I would never post a lmgtfy link if there was an actual discussion taking place.
Not only did I respond to his question first, that link had both the answer and a link to the arch wiki. Perhaps enlightening OP on steps they could take next time. On their own.
“Help” would mean OP has tried a number of things and still having trouble. I don’t see any sign of that here. While I admit the lmgtfy link is a bit passive-aggressive, it drives home a point I’m comfortable making ever time I see posts like this.
How do you think the OP is supposed to know that “SDDM” is the issue to look up? You don’t get to enforce another person’s effort. If all you want to provide is "you’re looking for ‘SDDM,’ that would provide help and empower them without sounding like you’re biting the newbie for not knowing everything.
Are you serious?
Because using OPs own words and typing in “kde login rotation” into Google immediately comes up with results talking about SDDM.
The laziness is strong.
Yes. I would assume that the problem is in X11 or Wayland before thinking it could be SDDM, frankly. But even then, googling “Linux login screen” doesn’t immediately reveal SDDM to be the point of concern.
Why do you keep moving like the goal posts around? I explained to you how minimal effort on a user’s part can lead to answers, which can lead to new questions and answers.
I’m not moving any goalposts at all. I’m expressing how inexperience and bad assumptions can make one’s searching unfruitful through no fault of their own. That’s all I’ve ever been saying.
Incredible how we’ve managed to get to this point. People are actually arguing that being lazy is technically beneficial to documentation online and that it’s rude to not just accept it.
Ah, you made an edit. Yeah, “kde login rotation” does, but “EndeavourOS login rotation” gives you no results mentioning SDDM. Giving people the benefit of the doubt costs you nothing over assuming that they’re lazy, and the added bonus is that you don’t sound like a jerk.
Ah, you made an edit.
The edit was a new line removal and your whataboutism is exhausting.
Edit: actually I don’t remember what was changed anymore. Every once in a while I see conversations like the ones in this post and I see red.
What I do remember is that I’ve stuck to my point and no one will convince me that laziness actually helps research and explaining to others how to do things better is unacceptable.
OP probably wasn’t aware it was an SDDM issue. Or even what SDDM is, hence the question.
Well, there was zero effort documented in the post. So I guess we’ll never know what OP knows or doesn’t know or what they’ve already tried or not.
Take a look at Ubuntu trying to teach newcomers how to ask a question.
https://askubuntu.com/help/how-to-ask
You’re not their teacher. It’s not your job to decide how much effort they’ve put forth, or to grade whether or not that is sufficient.
And if they documented their research process, you’d say “tldr just ask the question.” Stop trying to be paternalistic and gatekeepy. Just answer or don’t.
You’re right. The days of quality moderation and standards are over. Now we have millions of useless posts being archived like this one.
That’s totally the biggest problem with the internet. And definitely deploying self-important moderaptors is the way to fix it.
/s, of course. Get off your high horse.
The archives! Why won’t anyone think of the archives!?
If we have room for comments like yours in the archives then we have room for legitimate questions by beginners in there too. Your post history shows a significant amount of deleted comments and downvotes. I bet they were all very productive and helpful comments for the archives, right?
We aren’t Ubuntu here. As far as I’m concerned OP’s question was just fine.
That’s what you got from that?
“We aren’t Ubuntu” ?
It’s about how to ask questions in a technical form. A general “benefit” to all involved in the process.
The goal of Ubuntu’s help forum is to solve users’ problems efficiently and effectively. That goal is better achieved if questions are posed in certain optimal ways.
The goal of Lemmy is for people to have discussions (like this one! ;). That goal is not better achieved with well posed questions.
lol