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Anybody here weld? I’m thinking of bailing on IT and learning a trade after like 10 years and a post-grad later, whole industry is screwed short-term and long. I’ve done manual labour basically forever even during IT jobs and it seems like a cool trade where you have to think but also get to work with tools.
I’m currently in the last year of a CS major and I already hate it, and pretty scared about the future of IT. Should I be thinking about other options?
I’d say finish since you’ve gotten this far (unless there’s some kind of cataclysmic shift very soon) but certainly have a backup plan. Always have a backup plan. As you will learn in IT; one is none and two is one.
But idk I’m a recent infosec grad and every single employer wants you to have all sorts of certs that aren’t included in your actual curriculum. Nobody cares if you have CISSP or Networking+ equivalent knowledge, for example, even if that was literally what you studied and got A’s in in school. They want the real deal which costs like 1000 USD. And that’s to attempt the CISSP alone. That’s a very strong cert but even that is not quite enough alone based on the postings I’m reading. Makes my head spin thinking about how many calls for interviews I was getting unprovoked back in 2018.
So yeah, be prepared for employers seeking unicorn candidates with at least 2+ years of experience in whatever job you’re looking at, ghost jobs (Sophos is horrible for this), and I hope you can drive because tons of them want to shuttle you between job sites because it’s just cheaper to pay for gas. I can’t and it’s cost me dearly. Make sure you have a good workflow for creating custom resumes from a template too because you’re gonna be sending a LOT of them.
That’s just my experience. Good luck out there. /gen
Trades is on the same road as IT & STEM were. At least around here, good paying jobs are usually gatekeept & awarded via nepotism.
Good paying trade jobs have always been like that, sadly.
sounds bleak.
I can do basic welds but never took it up as a career; it pays pretty good and they’ll be more than glad to take you on. It’s a long apprenticeship with lots to learn if you’re just starting off but you can eventually make some really good money if you specialize without the overhead of higher-education over you.
The problem then becomes trying to find a good-paying job in a trade, which is harder than a lot of people claim it is unless you’re getting into a union to which then you might have to wait longer instead. A lot of stupid dickheads running dad-and-son fab shops that want the lowest possible overhead in labor costs.
Well that’s terrible news. Thank you for your input anyways.
Optimism of will, pessimism of intellect or something like that. You can find something, but don’t ever, ever settle in a trade.