• PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au
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    the crossing of which, everyone understands, will result in negative coverage and editorial scolding

    Not really that. The crossing of which will result in this massive narrative-shaping machine being put to work and simply engineering you out of place like a Twilight Zone episode.

    I saw it in action when I ever talked to some of my relatives about Bernie Sanders. These guys are a little on the back foot because of Mamdani’s genuine popularity, and his face-to-face approach neutered some of the ways they like to do things, but they’re extremely well-funded and they’re good at what they do. I am completely sure they will figure something out.

    The most obvious possibility is just to talk to a few key people in the city and make sure that things turn into a disaster in ways that are out of his control (or maybe just pick out a couple of real issues and inflate them into massive evidence of what a disaster all this socialism stuff is).

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    1 day ago

    The rules of the American establishment are really clear:

    It’s okay: To be a pedophile, a thief, a liar, a warmonger, a genocide supporter, a nazi.

    It’s not ok: To tax the rich, want health care, want unions, criticize the genocidal puppet state of Israel., Punish the crimes of the oligarch or political class.

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        Nah, see what fake progressives do is talk a big game, then during their acceptance speech they say “good game, opponent” and make it clear they’ll listen to everyone. Once they made the sale, they stop selling… They don’t want people to remember the campaign promises, they go back to vibes

        Mamdani doubled down, he was like “look at all these people who tried to ratfuck me and we still won! Okay, so remember, the plan is free buses, free childcare, raise taxes on the wealthy a little, and maybe test to waters see if I can talk the NYPD into fighting ICE”

        I don’t know how the guy keeps it up. I thought he’d take a few days to sleep or something, but he’s still everywhere somehow

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          23 hours ago

          Bud, he’s not actually IN OFFICE yet. Maybe give him a few months before you throw yourself at him.

          I’m glad he won, but lots of people—most people imo—stop at that

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            18 hours ago

            Yeah, exactly… He won and didn’t take a break, he kept the momentum up

            The day after his victory, he got on stage and laid out his game plan. For the next few months he’s building out his staff and meeting with key people… Which is boring, but that is how you get an agenda passed

            Normal politicians would be doing a victory lap, he’s using the energy of a big win to build his narrative

            Politics move on momentum and stories. It’s ok to believe in things, and in people, in fact it’s necessary if we don’t want to continue to let the world rot around us

            • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net
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              I agree, it’s a good sign. Mamdani won, in part, because of the insane level of grassroots support he had. In concrete terms, that means having lots of regular people help you by knocking on doors and helping you make inroads to their local community. Whilst the kind of work that it takes to get someone elected is super different to what would help when someone is in office, so far I am hopeful that Mamdani will be able to continue working with and leveraging the grassroots support he has. For that, keeping up momentum is useful.

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        Yea, but he’s an anarcho marxist radical Islam fundamentalist, self described Jew hating socialist leader of antifa who just waisted 40 million dollars of AIPAC money.

        The only thing he has to do to move further to the right is fart on live national television like Donald Trump always does.

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    Podcast hosts aren’t really any more “journalist” than the “elite” media, whatever the is. Just an excuse to give a no-name author of a very biased podcast that wouldn’t be caught dead every acknowledging a positive thing about Democrats. Some of these articles are just saying “he won, let’s see how it goes” and this dude is twisting that using boogeyman language like “elite”.

    Another person taking the recent elections as wins over Democrats, not over Republicans.

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    The message here is fairly consistent across high-status pundits, lobbyists-populated articles, and editorials: you won. We can’t stop you from winning (unfortunately humans still get to cast one vote each). But think very carefully about your rhetoric, the targets of your criticism, and what your priorities are. Here are the boundary lines. If you cross them, things will be made more difficult—by the rich, by pro-Israel pressure groups, by other Democrats, by us in the media. Play ball, and you can coast with modest, incremental improvements. Govern as the class warrior, govern as someone who leans into meaningfully redistributive policies, support for Palestine, and genuinely universalist policies like free transportation and childcare, and we will help fuel the very headwinds that we are now ostensibly warning you about.

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    But what about “the PIVOT!?” Everyone knows that once you win, you have to PIVOT to the right! It’s a rule. /s