• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    2 months ago

    Every Ukrainian that fought, bled, and died is a victim of a western backed regime that allowed its country to be used in a proxy war with Russia. Every westerner that keeps cheering this on is a deplorable psychopath. The fact that you think this is about justifications shows that you’re nothing more than a useful idiot facilitating atrocities.

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      Let’s be clear here. I’m not cheering on this war. I hope it ends tomorrow. The loss of life is tragic. And guee smehat? There’s one person in particular that could make it end today. The same person who started this war. Vladimir Putin.

      Why should the onus of peace be placed on a country that did nothing to provoke Russia? Ukraine cannot be faulted for defending its borders and refusing to allow a second Crimea.

      But since ol’ Vlad is hellbent on making the Foundations of Geopolitics text a reality, then I say fuck him and every person who helps facilitate or justify this illegal war. If he wants to make another land grab then I hope it costs him as much as it possibly can. Because the alternative is that countries like Russia just take land whenever they feel like it.

      Better yet, I hope there is mass insurrection in the Russian army and they just refuse to engage. But then we’d probably see a lot of people’s family members strangely falling off balconies. Weird how that works.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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        There’s one person in particular that could make it end today. The same person who started this war. Vladimir Putin.

        It’s weird that people are still regurgitating this talking point. Why would Russia end the war now that they’re clearly winning it?

        Why should the onus of peace be placed on a country that did nothing to provoke Russia? Ukraine cannot be faulted for defending its borders and refusing to allow a second Crimea.

        Ukraine did plenty to provoke Russia with western encouragement, and lots of prominent people in the west have warned that this would lead to a war. Ukraine has been in a civil war since the legitimate government was overthrown in a violent coup back in 2014.

        Better yet, I hope there is mass insurrection in the Russian army and they just refuse to engage. But then we’d probably see a lot of people’s family members strangely falling off balconies. Weird how that works.

        Far more likely that this will happen in the Ukrainian army that’s now largely composed from people the regime kidnaps off the street and who have no interest in fighting. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/15/world/europe/ukraine-military-recruitment.html

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          Ah yes, there it is again. That old nugget of wisdom. Might makes right. Was that taken from the Bible? Was it Jesus that said, “Blessed are those that take what they can?” I dunno, maybe something was mistranslated in the Russian Orthodox version there.

          So which is it? Ukraine provoked Russia or Russia is liberating Nazi led Ukraine? Strange how the rationale keeps shifting.

          It’s weird to see someone work so hard to rationalize something that is so clearly morally wrong.

          Whatever. It’s clear you’re a Russian shill. Nice try but you aren’t fooling anyone here. You have no moral leg to stand on.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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            Ah yes, there it is again. That old nugget of wisdom. Might makes right.

            No amount of moralizing is going to change reality. The rest of the world had to deal with might makes right from the west since the end of USSR. Yet, all of a sudden morally bankrupt western public trying to get on a high horse when somebody else does the same thing the west has been doing for many decades. Nobody is impressed by that.

            The west is conducting a literal genocide while we speak, yet here you are talking about morals. 🤡

            So which is it? Ukraine provoked Russia or Russia is liberating Nazi led Ukraine? Strange how the rationale keeps shifting.

            Not sure how these things are mutually exclusive in your mind, but it’s pretty clear that rational thinking isn’t your forte.

            Whatever. It’s clear you’re a Russian shill. Nice try but you aren’t fooling anyone here. You have no moral leg to stand on.

            That’s right, everyone who disagrees with your is a Russian shill. You are very intelligent.