It just seems insane to me that anyone could look at the death toll, the injuries, the people being conscripted, the flattened cities, the POWs and consider this a good outcome because a lot of Russians also died.
You have to really hate Slavs if you’re that full of glee at fields of dead that you don’t care that the side you’re “supporting” is in ruins and the government is forcing people into the meat grinder.
Fight them, or find a way to stop the death. Russia has more people, they will win a war of attrition.
But hey if you’re a French president or whatever you get to test your hardware, weaken Russia, kill off a lot of those pesky Slavs that keep migrating for work that really riles up the racists against the EU, and you can postition yourself as the leader of an axis for freedom. It’s wins all round.
They actively avoid having their narratives challenged, I posted a (what I think) is a pretty good overview of the situation in Ukraine, critical of Russia, but much moreso of Ukraine for obvious reasons. But Jordan Lund didn’t even look at it, saw the channels name “Videos from Mariupol” and then googled some articles about “russian propaganda coming out of mariupol” ca. 2023 or whenever the city was liberated and used that as justification to delete the comment and ban me. Never watched the video.
You have to really hate Slavs if you’re that full of glee at fields of dead that you don’t care that the side you’re “supporting” is in ruins and the government is forcing people into the meat grinder.
Welcome to europe I guess. The red army freed europe and will never be forgiven for this.
Nice try, tankie, but I never said the civilians had it coming, that was a misrepresentation by Hexbear vatniks because they can’t comprehend anyone not falling for soviet propaganda decades after that state failed.
I said authoritarians, I did not say civilians. I was under the impression that when I said soldiers, and they quoted the 27 million, that they were not also referring to civilians. that was not the case, and as expected the tankies are dishonest and started passing around the rumors that I support genocide. a ridiculous notion that would have gotten me banned if true. as you can see, I am not banned, because the admins are not idiots and are not falling for tankie rage farming.
I am a fan of every soldier from any country who invades another dying. especially american soldiers.
TIL buying time to industrialise to fight Nazis to hang the genocidal fuckers is adjacent to a Nazi.
What a ludicrous statement. I’m not even offended, that’s just funny. Murdering Nazi fuckers being good is probably close to one of my most deeply held beliefs, as is common in basically everyone who’s family was exterminated by them.
the context is you argued the soviets were justified working with the nazis. there isn’t any further context that will make that a moral high ground for you.
You’re right, britian, Poland, and France are blameless for rejecting ussr offers of an alliance and that more fields of dead Slavs would be a good outcome.
Why the fuck do you always want my people to just bear their throats for the slaughter mate? No fucking way my grandparents would have survived if the USSR didn’t occupy Poland. Shit was brutual but at least it wasn’t deathcamp brutual and my grandmother got an education and shit.
You’re right, britian, Poland, and France are blameless for rejecting ussr offers overtures of an alliance and that more fields of dead Slavs would be a good outcome.
funny how tankies are quick to take responsibility for anything they perceive as being good, but the instant somebody brings up something bad, it’s really everyone else’s fault they did what they did.
Why the fuck do you always want my people to just bear their throats for the slaughter mate?
a french teenager could fight the nazis and be defiant up to her execution by the nazis, but the nation that supposedly won the war single-handedly is the real victim here. I’m surprised whiplash isn’t a more common injury among tankies, with the speed with which you switch back and forth between playing the victim and cosplaying as the savior of mankind.
I’m going to block you now, I have no interest in speaking with anyone who justifies actively helping nazis. that’s a pretty fucking disgusting behavior.
The French largely completely collaborated. The French resistance were impressive, but they had significant aid, lots of French jew were killed because the state and police actively supported Nazi efforts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_France, the Nazis never regarded ethnically French people as untermensch to be worked to death in camps so they didn’t face the same systemic murder that Slavic people did, the policy of lebensraum didn’t target fench lands for “emptying”.
You can’t be coherant because you just want other people to die for your ideals but you stay inside posting all day.
Naeva being based? Must be a day ending in y
It just seems insane to me that anyone could look at the death toll, the injuries, the people being conscripted, the flattened cities, the POWs and consider this a good outcome because a lot of Russians also died.
You have to really hate Slavs if you’re that full of glee at fields of dead that you don’t care that the side you’re “supporting” is in ruins and the government is forcing people into the meat grinder.
Fight them, or find a way to stop the death. Russia has more people, they will win a war of attrition.
But hey if you’re a French president or whatever you get to test your hardware, weaken Russia, kill off a lot of those pesky Slavs that keep migrating for work that really riles up the racists against the EU, and you can postition yourself as the leader of an axis for freedom. It’s wins all round.
They actively avoid having their narratives challenged, I posted a (what I think) is a pretty good overview of the situation in Ukraine, critical of Russia, but much moreso of Ukraine for obvious reasons. But Jordan Lund didn’t even look at it, saw the channels name “Videos from Mariupol” and then googled some articles about “russian propaganda coming out of mariupol” ca. 2023 or whenever the city was liberated and used that as justification to delete the comment and ban me. Never watched the video.
Welcome to europe I guess. The red army freed europe and will never be forgiven for this.
The city getting “liberated”? From and by whom? Please ellaborate
from azov nazis by the raf
🤨
You really gonna go with some Россия 1/Первый Канал/RT bullshit like that? Yeet for IDK, a year? Nah permaban TBH
The azovstal stuff was pretty big even on reddit
??? What does that even mean LOL
It means the dumbass has word salad from their talking points.
Reminder that this user also argues that the USSR had no choice but to be nazi collaborators.
https://anarchist.nexus/post/83953
Reminder that this user argues that the 27 million soviet citizens the nazis killed all had it coming because of the molotov ribbentop pact
Nice try, tankie, but I never said the civilians had it coming, that was a misrepresentation by Hexbear vatniks because they can’t comprehend anyone not falling for soviet propaganda decades after that state failed.
This is what I am referring to https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?commentId=21948235
I said authoritarians, I did not say civilians. I was under the impression that when I said soldiers, and they quoted the 27 million, that they were not also referring to civilians. that was not the case, and as expected the tankies are dishonest and started passing around the rumors that I support genocide. a ridiculous notion that would have gotten me banned if true. as you can see, I am not banned, because the admins are not idiots and are not falling for tankie rage farming.
I am a fan of every soldier from any country who invades another dying. especially american soldiers.
I love you don’t link to the context because it’ll make you look stupid.
There is no context that doesn’t make you adjacent to a Nazi.
TIL buying time to industrialise to fight Nazis to hang the genocidal fuckers is adjacent to a Nazi.
What a ludicrous statement. I’m not even offended, that’s just funny. Murdering Nazi fuckers being good is probably close to one of my most deeply held beliefs, as is common in basically everyone who’s family was exterminated by them.
If you lie down with Nazis, you get up with Nazis.
Which I have obviously done, having an opinion on history that is different to yours.
Just… log off. Go do something, Lemmy posts aren’t some revolutionary front.
I’m not talking about you, I’m talking about the Soviets.
But if you today want to collaborate with Nazis, by all means please apply that to yourself.
the context is you argued the soviets were justified working with the nazis. there isn’t any further context that will make that a moral high ground for you.
You’re right, britian, Poland, and France are blameless for rejecting ussr offers of an alliance and that more fields of dead Slavs would be a good outcome.
Why the fuck do you always want my people to just bear their throats for the slaughter mate? No fucking way my grandparents would have survived if the USSR didn’t occupy Poland. Shit was brutual but at least it wasn’t deathcamp brutual and my grandmother got an education and shit.
funny how tankies are quick to take responsibility for anything they perceive as being good, but the instant somebody brings up something bad, it’s really everyone else’s fault they did what they did.
a french teenager could fight the nazis and be defiant up to her execution by the nazis, but the nation that supposedly won the war single-handedly is the real victim here. I’m surprised whiplash isn’t a more common injury among tankies, with the speed with which you switch back and forth between playing the victim and cosplaying as the savior of mankind.
I’m going to block you now, I have no interest in speaking with anyone who justifies actively helping nazis. that’s a pretty fucking disgusting behavior.
What are you even talking about?
The French largely completely collaborated. The French resistance were impressive, but they had significant aid, lots of French jew were killed because the state and police actively supported Nazi efforts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_France, the Nazis never regarded ethnically French people as untermensch to be worked to death in camps so they didn’t face the same systemic murder that Slavic people did, the policy of lebensraum didn’t target fench lands for “emptying”.
You can’t be coherant because you just want other people to die for your ideals but you stay inside posting all day.
Always supporting the aggressor state of Moscow.