I thought this we were a bit more cultured, better informed people than reddit, but after reading the amount of ignorant and absolute bigoted comments on this post, apparently we’re definitely not an inch better
I didn’t realise Muslims were responding to shit like this with “we’re not vampires with garlic idiot.” But I like it.
As an exmuslim, I’m disappointed in this comment section.
islam is NOT your friend. Simping for it just shows that you’re either ignorant or you’re hypocrite with not prinicples. islam, as an ideology is so unbelievably vile that it’s a very strong contender for being the worst ideology in history. Pedophilia, sex slavery, rape, misogyny, wife beatings, normal slavery, genocide, terrorism, homophobia, violent colonialism, apartheid governance, censorship, intentional discrimination and hatred, and barbaric capital punishment are all explicitly allowed and encouraged in the islamic scriptures.
This is not just me making things up, I can literally show you either verses from the quran, sahih hadiths, or both explicitly allow and encourage every single one of these. I’m against bigotry and bigots, however, I am also against those who cover for them. In this case, islam is just as bigoted, if not more bigoted, than the person in the post, and the people covering for islam aren’t any better. I will always stand tall and proud on the side of people who exercise their right to free speech to criticize islam, and expose the religion for what it is, despite the dangers of doing so.
I agree with you and would expand that to cover most major religions, particularly the abrahamic ones.
I also think bigotry is evil because it’s blind hatred of anyone belonging to a group. There are decent enough people that are Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Admittedly most don’t closely follow their religion (particularly the fucked up parts) – but they still identify as such.
There’s a difference between attacking a belief system and attacking huge, diverse groups of people. Somehow I don’t think Ultra Nuclear’s intent was the former.
Thank you for your perspective, I feel like I hear a lot about exMormon and exCatholic but not much about exIslam
*ex Muslim
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Pedophilia, sex slavery, rape, misogyny, wife beatings, normal slavery, genocide, terrorism, homophobia, violent colonialism, apartheid governance, censorship, intentional discrimination and hatred, and barbaric capital punishment are all explicitly allowed and encouraged in the islamic scriptures.
so the same as every other abrahamic religion?
I find it very frustrating how islam, and only islam, gets excused for all the shit it has. There will always be someone rushing in to defend it with type of pointless nonsense. islam is bad on its own merits, you don’t need to defend on meaningless generalizations. Just because other religions have their own shitty verses that does NOT excuse, justify, or negate what’s in islam. People can and should criticize it on its own for what it is.
Sounds like Christianity to me! Judging by the bible that I read 4 times. Literally my second most read book.
What’s amazing is that people have time to mind other people’s business.
Its always jarring to see bigots disgrace just the Quran and Islam.
I’d argue fundamentalist Christians and Christian Zionists follow a nearly identical ideology and commit nearly identical atrocities as any radical Islamic Jihadist.
I’d argue fundamentalist Christians and Christian Zionists follow a nearly identical ideology
Literally identical bibliography up to a point. The Bible is a sacred text within Islam as well (although not in any condition an American evangelical could stomach reading, on account of it not being in English).
It’s the interpretation that drives a wedge between them. Muslims recognize Jesus as a prophet, but reject the Nicean Creed (just like Jews).
commit nearly identical atrocities
The idea that religion causes atrocities requires a particular blindness to cataclysmic violence during secular eras. It’s not religion that’s getting Dems and Repubs alike to sponsor the Israeli genocide of Palestine, for instance. This is entirely rooted in the geopolitics of the oil trade through the Suez Canal.
Fear, bigotry, misinformation, and the mass hysteria of modern warfare are fully decoupled from secular traditions. Atheists like Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens have been as zealous in their advocacy of this barbarism as dogmatic Catholics and Muslims, like Pope Francis and Salman al-Dayah have been advocates for peace.
The idea that you can eliminate war through apostasy went out the window 60 years ago, during the height of the Soviet Era. War has an entirely materialist causation.
Well Islam is an offshoot of Christianity, so it makes sense that they’re basically the same thing.
You can at least draw a picture of Jesus without being murdered.
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You can draw a picture of Mohammed without being murdered. Do it now. I promise you you’ll be fine.
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There never has existed any rules in Christianity about drawing Jesus in any way being a no no. Shitty comparison.
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The fundamentalist Christians of the USA disappeared someone because they had a meme of fat JD Vance. The same people who turn around and tell the country God is king and Christians are facing genocide from a nonexistent communist deep state. Same ones who fully support Israel’s genocide in Palestine and emperial war to make Greater Israel so the Christian version of the apocalypse can begin.
So no, the world isn’t safe from radical Christians. We’re actually more in danger now than we have been in quite some time.
Didn’t say it was. But I can think of a few dead cartoonist that might have a different view.
Both relgion need to go. But seeing people Islam because they hate christans more pisses me off.
I’m not defending Islam.
I’m saying we’re fooling ourselves if we’re suggesting that radical Christians aren’t a colossal threat just as radical Muslims are.
In many ways, they’re actually a greater threat to the West because they hold power here. Muslims generally don’t, in comparison.
And again, I invite you to see the source of so many of Israel’s weapons they use to commit genocide and illegally attack their neighbors.
Its widely Christian Zionists in America.
I get that. But I feel like people want to pretend that Islam is better are being willfully ignorant
Also thar picture is from the Afghanistan war.
There is no need to compare bigoted religions. However, if you want to do so Islam comes out as the more bigot and violent hands down. Look at the punishment for apostasy or homosexuality as an example.
Sure, it is a minority religion in the west, thankfully, so it is less of a problem compared to Christianity from a selfish, west centric view. However from a general perspective of how religion is used to oppress and control other people Islam is pretty much where Christianity was 3 centuries ago.
Yes, many people hate Islam because they want their bigoted religion not to be threatened, or because Islam is practiced by people too brown for their racism, but this doesn’t mean that every time someone criticizes Islam for the many, many reasons that it deserves to be criticized, people need to jump to defend it.
What is even more shocking is that this regularly happens in communities where using the wrong pronoun is considered a capital sin, but somehow defending a bigoted religion that in some cases leads to the hanging of homosexuals is fine, as long as it’s a reflex to other bigotry (real or perceived).
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I’ve always said both Christianity and Islam are my enemy. Both science denying, sexist, power hungry institutions with a penchant for fucking kids. The only difference, in the West, is that Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago. I think Islam still needs that lesson.
Regardless, fuck them both. Sky daddy worshipping death cults.
Both science denying, sexist, power hungry institutions with a penchant for fucking kids.
Religious institutions have been at the foundation of modern scientific scholarship for centuries. Meanwhile, merely avoiding a formal religious indoctrination does nothing to improve your education or steer you clear of superstition.
And there’s no shortage of apostate child fuckers. Epstein’s island had academics and influencers of every stripe.
Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago
To the secular financial system, where all the child fucking happens.
The only difference, in the West, is that Christianity was made to bend the knee a long time ago
My dude, are you seeing what’s happening in the US? What types of people are most passionately supporting Israel?
Shit, are you seeing the rampant rise of the far right accross Europe and Australia and some of their biggest backers?
That shit ain’t happening because of Muslims. The Christian Jihadists are back and are making serious gains.
Tehran in the 1970s would have been a beautiful way to show how modern lifestyles and islamic culture could co-exist, much in the same way that Christianity was treated in the West all the way up to 2015.
Ah well, I guess there’s still Istanbul, and I guess the West can still potentially pull themselves away from the right-wing christian fundamentalism they’re currently embracing
Tehran in the 1970s would have been a beautiful way to show how modern lifestyles and islamic culture could co-exist
Celebrating the Shah’s Iran for it’s secularism is a bit like celebrating Guantanamo Bay, Cuba for it’s capitalism.
I thought that happened in '79
The Shah of Iran couped the democratic government in 1953 and enacted a brutal military dictatorship that was not overthrown until '79.
oh, sorry. I just saw some hippie photos from the 70s and assumed it was a liberal/secular place around then until 79
Yeah this worries me a lot at the minute. There’s a concerted effort to push christianity back in front of the levers of power and it disgusts me. I mean, have you ever tried to read the bible? It’s complete nonsense (nonce-sense?).
You’ll grow up from that phase.
Not sure, I’m nearly 40. Felt this way since I was old enough to have an opinion. But I hear that sentiment a lot, as religious people think being a cultist is a default position… its not. Kids are just indoctrinated.
I’m an atheist but I realized like 5 years ago that sweeping generalisations are problematic and often the result of being indoctrinated, religiously or through social media.
A lot of them would have you imprisoned if they had your way. It’s become painfully obvious to me, especially with everything happening with the yank christofascists, that there are a lot of religious wackos out there kept in check by secularism. They’d had you under the boot heel in a second if they could.
I never understood the base level of acceptance theism has when they keep doing evil things, every time they get power. Religion isn’t your friend.
Tbf the problem was always race rather than religion.
Well yeah. Hate directed towards Muslims is 99% hate against brown people in a thinly veiled disguise.
What happened to good ol’ piss on the book
Watch out, we’re dealing with a badass.
Yeah, we get it, you’ve recently discovered atheism and think you’re proving a point. Yawn. Call me when you’re burning the Kyballion. I’ll bring smores.
Not good for the environment at all. The only acceptable way to dispose of any book or paper is through recycling. Destrying holy books is very juvenile anyways.
It was done to make sure mistakes of Quran’s printing couldn’t be reused by others.
That image looks machine generated… also not good for the environment.
Suck shit bigots
Under what circumstances would anyone need to dispose of a book?
When someone dies and it’s part of their estate sale, and nobody wants to buy the book, and bookstores & thrift stores don’t want to receive it as donation?
Not in the case of books treated as timeless, but we do print a lot of contemporary stuff that is designed to become irrelevant. School books, manuals, law books, phonebooks etc. It traditionally was and still is a convinient form of sharing a lot of information. Computers with dynamically changing content are there to replace it now, but they are yet to do so, and there are good reasons for it.
You just reminded me about 30 years ago when I used to be mormon, we didn’t know it at the time, but all the church leadership from the higher-ups were encouraging everyone to purchase new scriptures and get rid of our old ones. Turns out they had changed a lot of the text to erase past “doctrinal” concepts/faux pas 😳 . Sketchy. Of course they didn’t tell us they changed anything in the scriptures but scholars over the years dug it up and did the comparisons.
I think the last time I saw a phonebook was over 10 years ago.
perhaps if the book degrades to an unusable state
She’s awesome. I hope she has this much fun with bigots every time.
Some book burners haven’t learned from history
Other book burners want to immitate it.
Both are equally fucking cringe.
One for being an obvious hypocrite in opposition of religion and only burning one of the books.
One for pretending that muslims doesn’t try to murder those that burns “their” book.
Fuck both of them.
Hm yes all Muslims are exactly the same
Hey, if the shoe fits the religious foot.
Except it doesn’t. The girl in the post is actively proving you incorrect
Dude wait till you hear about this religion called Christianity.
Are you blind or stupid? I told you that he’s a hypocrite for only burning one of the books.
Hey thanks for the feedback my reasonable and stoic nonreligious friendo.
I believe you have misunderstood the original post and may not be familiar with the history of religions which a-ok buckeroo.
So chief, Christians and Muslims have historically been at each others throats and both have committed horrific imperialistic atrocities as a result.
Champ, when you see something like this, its usually another religious person doing it. That’s not hypocrisy because they actually believe in their version of God. They’re not anti religion like a big strong intelligent atheist like you are. They are anti any religion that’s not theirs.
That being said, I sense much anger in you friendo. Have you considered religion to help you navigate this emotional turmoil?
Cool bit of condescention there buckaroo. I believe the issue was your reading comprehension.
So chief, Christians and Muslims have historically been at each others throats and both have committed horrific imperialistic atrocities as a result.
Yeah? No shit Sherlock.
Champ, when you see something like this, its usually another religious person doing it. That’s not hypocrisy because they actually believe in their version of God. They’re not anti religion like a big strong intelligent atheist like you are. They are anti any religion that’s not theirs.
Yes, and i believe i said something along the line of “raging hypocrisy” and fuck them both. So what exactly is your point other than a feeling good about being smug and condescending?
That being said, I sense much anger in you friendo. Have you considered religion to help you navigate this emotional turmoil?
Nope. In fact, religious people and their pompous rightousness is what drive the fury within. They and you are quite similar.
Ok champ. Stay safe and remember to be kind.
Lol the best part is that she forces them to learn something.
